John Cena out 6-8 Months! Score!

[TheRealist50]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/5267524/cenainjuryupdate

John Cena is out which means Chris Jericho's return could be JUST in time. I could totally see WWE doing something like...Randy Orton comes out at No Mercy and says "well since John Cena is out looks like I'm the new champion...now...Give me my title"

And then...



*Break The Walls Down* out comes Jericho who challenges Orton to a match for the vacant title and then...Jericho Wins!

[Nick G 42390]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/5267524/cenainjuryupdate

John Cena is out which means Chris Jericho's return could be JUST in time. I could totally see WWE doing something like...Randy Orton comes out at No Mercy and says "well since John Cena is out looks like I'm the new champion...now...Give me my title"

And then...



*Break The Walls Down* out comes Jericho who challenges Orton to a match for the vacant title and then...Jericho Wins!

Oh man that'd be awesome! But, I found this earlier. I hope it's not true.

Edge could join Rey Mysterio, Triple H, Undertaker at No Mercy as WWE stars that have returned on pay-per-view rather than on free television. If he does not appear at this PPV, he'll definitely be at Survivor Series. Chris Jericho will NOT be appearing at No Mercy for those wondering. They are going to build this up for quite some time.

[Krueger]

wow how much the wwe is scripted

[darkXhawk]

wow how much the wwe is scripted

Nothing like stating the obvious.


As for Cena being out....GOOD! He'll FINALLY lose the title and hopefully never get it back.

[Shinobi273]

Nothing like stating the obvious.


As for Cena being out....GOOD! He'll FINALLY lose the title and hopefully never get it back.

Hopefuly the writers never give it back to him.

[ThaPrototype]

It's kind of sad that it takes an injury to finally take the belt off of him. It will be refreshing to someone else. Oh and get rid of the fucking spinner belt!

[Krueger]

It's kind of sad that it takes an injury to finally take the belt off of him. It will be refreshing to someone else. Oh and get rid of the fucking spinner belt!
the spinner belt and john cena are the only thing the wwe has going for them i think the wwe has sucked since stone cold left

[Shinobi273]

It's kind of sad that it takes an injury to finally take the belt off of him. It will be refreshing to someone else. Oh and get rid of the fucking spinner belt!

It spins? really?! lol "They spinnin'!"

[Smokez]

Losing Cena is a huge hit to WWE. I think he will wrestle at No Mercy to lose it and have Orton basically kill cena. Or they will have Kennedy take the glory which means he took out Lashley and Cena. You have to give him credit tho this is his first injury since being with WWE and he dodged the Smackdown curse so maybe it just finally caught up to him

[DarKnight80]

I wonder what WWE is going to do this Sunday at the No Mercy PPV. My thoughts are that somehow, Randy Orton will walk away with the WWE Championship... only to set a feud between him and Triple H... and then Triple H becomes the new WWE Champion.

[Nick G 42390]

I wonder what WWE is going to do this Sunday at the No Mercy PPV. My thoughts are that somehow, Randy Orton will walk away with the WWE Championship... only to set a feud between him and Triple H... and then Triple H becomes the new WWE Champion.

Vince is gonna have an annoucnment tonight at the beginning of ECW regarding the title. It starts in just over a half hour.

Also, WWE.com is having a poll asking who you'd like to see walk outta No Mercy as the WWE Champion.

[Jdm7399]

Wow! Cena out? I thought he'll always be injury-free and be the champ forever. Well that's what it seems like, ever since he stepped foot into the WWE.

How long has he been champ exactly? Is he the longest champ ever?

I'm not going to call out names, but I know a few "certain" members that should know the answer to this.;)

[Nick G 42390]

Wow! Cena out? I thought he'll always be injury-free and be the champ forever. Well that's what it seems like, ever since he stepped foot into the WWE.

How long has he been champ exactly? Is he the longest champ ever?

I'm not going to call out names, but I know a few "certain" members that should know the answer to this.;)

He was champ for right around 13 months and no he wasn't the longest ever. He had just passed Macho Man Randy Savage for the 6th longest title run. Here's a link to a list of the longest reigning champs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Championship_reigns_by_length

[Jdm7399]

He was champ for right around 13 months and no he wasn't the longest ever. He had just passed Macho Man Randy Savage for the 6th longest title run. Here's a link to a list of the longest reigning champs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Championship_reigns_by_length

Thanks, Nick!

I don't even know some of those wrestlers on that list. I think Cena's time as champ was up any ways. I'm kind of a fan of his, but then again, not really. I cheer for the guy, but his routine gets old. Let's see who's going to be the new champ.

[CLAPSTER]

John Cena out is a good thing in my opinion I miss when wrestlers were judged on their wrestling skill not POPULARITY with the little kids.......that's the only reason he has had the championship so long.

[TheRealist50]

As long as they ditch the stupid spinner belt. I don't care who is the champion...I just want a normal belt. Not a joke belt some 12 year old kid would make on the Create-A-Belt feature in Smackdown vs. Raw.

[getbusy1242]

You gotta feel bad for the guy. He has busted his butt to get where he is. I do agree that the spinner belt is stupid and that he held the title for to long. I would rather see him lose the belt without the injury. I hope Triple H gets it back i still remember when Triple H ripped his quad that was nasty.

[Nick G 42390]

Thanks, Nick!

I don't even know some of those wrestlers on that list. I think Cena's time as champ was up any ways. I'm kind of a fan of his, but then again, not really. I cheer for the guy, but his routine gets old. Let's see who's going to be the new champ.

Yeah, there's a few on there I never heard of either. I agree that I think his time was up. I really think Orton was gonna win it this sunday or soon. I was actually pulling for Orton at SummerSlam and Unforgiven. Now, it's up for grabs as to who they want to be champ. I have a feeling Mr. Kennedy will be involved in it. They've been wanting to push him for awhile, he was supposed to be Vince's bastard son but he got suspended for violating the wellness policy so yeah. Also, I wish Cena didn't have to lose his title this way. The 3 main champs on each brand lost there titles due to injury(Edge, now Cena) or suspension(John Morrison). Sad sight to see.....

[deej brutal]

honestly, as much as i cant stand the guy and want him to lose to everyone he fights, having an injury like that is a bummer. i wanted to see him lose the title cleanly, rather than have him vacate the title like that. now what we have to look forward to is cena coming back after all this is done and winning the title back almost immediately.

[spikedzombies]

wait you guys havent heard?

Hulk the man Hogan is coming back :D lol j.k

[DarKnight80]

With John Cena now out for a good while, it does make me wonder how long we would have held the WWE Championship had he not got hurt.

My guess would have been up to No Mercy losing it to Randy Orton. Even with the injury, I still believe Randy Orton walks away from No Mercy with the WWE Championship.

But then again, it actually would not surprise me the more I think about it if they gave it to Mr. Kennedy since he was in the match when John Cena got hurt.

[BackerMan]

yahoo! I hate john Cena. I would like to see bobby lashey becomes wwe champion but I doubt it will happen. I'm pretty sure randy orton will get it then probably into a feud with triple h.

and don't be surpised to see the return of chris jericho.

[Tained sainity]

I'm right gutted, he lost the title the most shityist way he overcomes Edge, Umaga, Shawn Micheals, The Great Khali, Bobby Lashley and now Randy Orton and out of all that it becomes a pec split which is made by Mr Kennedy hu can now say he took out Lashley and Cena plus he is my favourite to win the match for the title, Orton will have to change his game plan for Sunday for Mr Kennedy hu I am on about and other superstars just to clear that up

[darkXhawk]

I'm right gutted, he lost the title the most shityist way he overcomes Edge, Umaga, Shawn Micheals, The Great Khali, Bobby Lashley and now Randy Orton and out of all that it becomes a pec split which is made by Mr Kennedy hu can now say he took out Lashley and Cena plus he is my favourite to win the match for the title, Orton will have to change his game plan for Sunday for Mr Kennedy hu I am on about and other superstars just to clear that up

Don't forget he also dodged Triple H by making him tap out which was bulls$%t!

I do give Cena credit for what hes done. He has busted his ass to make it, Im just tired of seeing him. I seem to remember watching somthine on tv about him saying in his high school year book the other students voted him to "most likely become WWF(E) Champion when he grew up. Thats prety cool. But yeah, its time for someone else to have a reign.

[Jdm7399]

Don't forget he also dodged Triple H by making him tap out which was bulls$%t!

I do give Cena credit for what hes done. He has busted his ass to make it, Im just tired of seeing him. I seem to remember watching somthine on tv about him saying in his high school year book the other students voted him to "most likely become WWF(E) Champion when he grew up. Thats prety cool. But yeah, its time for someone else to have a reign.

I'm with you on that.

I'm also tired of seeing Cena, but I honestly do not want to see Orton or Kennedy as Champ. Hell, give the belt back to Triple H!

[Shinsetsu]

I'm not tired of Cena, as much as i'm tired of FACE Cena. Heel Cena was alot better Mic-wise and performance, and he even had MORE moves thana Face Cena. As insane as that sounds it's true. Sucks he has to vacate it this way, but a break from him will let come back with more moves possibly. *PLEASE OH GOD PLEASE!*

[Rocket]

It is sad that he had to vacate the title this way. I am a Cena fan, the man may not be the greatest wrestler, and he may be a talker and just another pretty face for everyone to see, but he can flat out compete. Had he not been injured, he would have lost this Sunday though, everyone could see that coming. Does Orton deserve the title though? Fuck no, the guy is an ass clown, and his gimmick is as retarded as whats his face, Bischoff's 'nephew', I can't even remember his name at the moment, goes to show how much of a peon he was....Triple H is a true champion and deserves a shot...I have a feeling that this Sunday will be a Triple Threat for the title, Umaga v Triple H v Randy Orton, or possibly even a Fatal 4 way with Carlito in the mix...

[Shinsetsu]

Triple H Held the title on and off for 3 years. I'm a huge HHH fan but even I got tired of him holding it... so it's probably better for him to NOT hold it for awhile. Being the Boss' son-in-law seems to have its perks in that sense.

[Nick G 42390]

Triple H Held the title on and off for 3 years. I'm a huge HHH fan but even I got tired of him holding it... so it's probably better for him to NOT hold it for awhile. Being the Boss' son-in-law seems to have its perks in that sense.

It does. Triple H is a HUGE part of the backstage and creative writing and shit. He sits in at every metting back stage and comes up with storylines and all that shit.

[Exane22]

And its not like he didnt earn that title reign. I mean its HHH. He was great as the champ and you could tell he worked his ass off. Dudes funny as hell to.

[Nick G 42390]

And its not like he didnt earn that title reign. I mean its HHH. He was great as the champ and you could tell he worked his ass off. Dudes funny as hell to.

Haha, yeah he is. He's always been funny, ever since the first DX. I don't know why, but when he sabotaged that video Vince made for Stephanie like a month ago and he showed up on the titan tron and at the end he looked close to the camera and said hey steph and smiled, that was just funny in my eyes for some reason. Lucky bastard, has a hot wife and a rich dad. He's set for life. I could see him taking over the WWE when Vince is done. Maybe him and Steph, or him and Shane or maybe all 3.

[Exane22]

Hopefully he can make it as crazy as DX bc id probably start watching it like i used 2.

[Nick G 42390]

Maybe. I wanna see how the WWE is a few months from now. TNA could start giving them a run for their money especially now that they have a 2 hour time slot. Vince needs to fix ECW that's for sure. He needs to make it 2 hours like the other shows, add about 5 more wrestlers at least and make it a little more extreme like it use to be. I hope shit changes in the upcoming months. I'm still gonna watch it, and will until I die but I'm not sure I'll enjoy it was much as I use to.

[Exane22]

The WWE needs to do something. They have had some major blows in the last couple of months and as you said TNA going 2 hours doesnt help. TNA is still garbage but there is potental there. Soon Vince is going to have to do something, and personally i think ECW is hurting the WWE more then its helping it. They should have waited until they could of had a full roster and able to do a 2 hour show. Your right in saying that it needs to be more extreme, but throwing more wrestles into the mix simply to fill spots isnt a good idea. Right now there is a lack of talent on Smackdown, it even shows on RAW right now a lil.

He needs to do it a lil at a time. Iron out RAW first. Then start getting some BAs onto Smack Down. Then once those shows get back on their feet it will be time to worry about ECW. Alls i can say is that Y2J coming back might save the WWE from the downward spiral that it is currently in, well lets hope anyways.

EDIT: id also like to add that Cena getting hurt will help the WWE, hes good and all but damn his reign was getting old. This forces them to mix things up, it just sucks that he will be off the show bc you have to admit hes got some fucking spirit. I remember seeing him back on a documentery when he was "The Prototype". Dudes a beast.

[Nick G 42390]

Very very true. TNA has MAJOR potential. AJ Styles is exactly what his name says, phenomanl(sp?) He's a terrific wrestler. He's got such good moves and a great wrestler. I mean, TNA has Sting,Rhino,Abyss,Christian,Kurt Angle,Rikishi,AJ Styles and lots of other great wrestlers. And now they have 2 hours to show it off. WWE has some major rebuilding and thinking to do. They need Edge and HBK back for sure. Y2J(which was confirmed today he signed a contract, I'll show proof if you want) is gonna help so much! Then they need a good wrestler to take over ECW. I think CM Punk should be that guy. They need to do something soon. Maybe reunite some old fan favorite tag teams like DX or The Hardyz or something. I for one would LOVE to see JBL and Ron Simmions reunite and become the APA again. They were great together. Vince isn't stupid though. He knows what needs to be done and he will do it eventually.

EDIT: Also, losing Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit were HUGE blows to the WWE. That hurt them more than anything I think.

[Rocket]

To go off your points Nick..

1. APA=not gonna happen...I would love it too man, they were beasts together, but JBL cannot wrestle anymore...I can't remember what it was, but he had some medical problem keeping him from wrestling...thats why he had to lose to Rey Mysterio in that last match of his...
2. DX=Kinda played out...yeah I would love it too...but them together isn't as great as it used to be...lemme break down an HBK match for you...he gets his ass whooped the whole match...gets his second wind and then wins...90% of his matches have been that way since the Elimination Chamber a few years back...He brings in the fans thats for sure, but his matches are actually kinda boring...
3. Hardyz= Now that I think should happen...Jeff is amazing, Matt not as much as he used to be...put them back together again and it's hell for anyone in the Tag era...even 'Londrick' as Smokez loves to say...those two are fun to watch, but in a real life scenario, they'd get their asses whooped by everyone they've faced, having them hold the titles for as long as they did was beyond me...
4. CM Punk= He does need a better push this is true, but he shouldn't be the face of ECW...if you notice they have been trying to find someone to be it...RVD didn't work, Sabu didn't work, The Big Show didn't work, Bobby Lashley worked, but he didn't have any real competition...thats why they kept using him on Raw and SD. They do need some people over there, and if they were to put Lashley back and give him some more names and actual competition, then ECW would be better off...
TNA= Second rate wrestling in my view...they are full of old talent...The Steiners..who the hell still likes the Steiners...Scott still using his played out persona...what a douche..Sting...granted I was excited to see him come back into wrestling, but after the first week or so it died off for me...Samoa Joe...now that dude is pretty badass...Kurt Angle...I was seriously pissed off he left, so I refuse to comment...I'll just say he took the cowards way out just because he wasn't going to get the WWE title...Christian Cage...I was actually happy for him when he left..he didn't get enough credit in the WWE for what he did...he is an amazing athelete...Rikishi? Why? I won't go there...

Thats a lot of typing...whew...

[Exane22]

Exactly all of this stuff combined is basically this http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h236/brettben1/Emoticons/nutkick.gif

With all that Talent, youd think TNA would be a force. But their presentation is so sub par its laughable. No seriously i watch and i laugh at the commentators. At least the WWE Commentors make it feel like its real, TNA its so obvious just listening to the guys. AJ Styes is probably one of my fav wrestlers and he has been for a good time. guy is a stud and his shit is so extreme .I dont like it lately how hes been hooked up with Cage bc it doesnt allow him to shine like he deserves. He basically needs to be there trophy boy, not fucking Christian Cage. They made him fucking champ, Christian champ. Those worlds should never ever go to gether bc that dude is garbage, well at least not champ matieral.

As far as talent on ECW, them getting Jonny whateverhisnameisthisweek is huge. That guy has as much talent as about any 2 guys on that show combined. Do you remember him from tough enough 2. They told him he was too talented for the WWE. the believed it so much that they thought he didnt have good intentions and that is why he didnt make the cut. He basically walked away with season 3. Standing Shooting Star press..... nugh said.

[Nick G 42390]

To go off your points Nick..

1. APA=not gonna happen...I would love it too man, they were beasts together, but JBL cannot wrestle anymore...I can't remember what it was, but he had some medical problem keeping him from wrestling...thats why he had to lose to Rey Mysterio in that last match of his...
2. DX=Kinda played out...yeah I would love it too...but them together isn't as great as it used to be...lemme break down an HBK match for you...he gets his ass whooped the whole match...gets his second wind and then wins...90% of his matches have been that way since the Elimination Chamber a few years back...He brings in the fans thats for sure, but his matches are actually kinda boring...
3. Hardyz= Now that I think should happen...Jeff is amazing, Matt not as much as he used to be...put them back together again and it's hell for anyone in the Tag era...even 'Londrick' as Smokez loves to say...those two are fun to watch, but in a real life scenario, they'd get their asses whooped by everyone they've faced, having them hold the titles for as long as they did was beyond me...
4. CM Punk= He does need a better push this is true, but he shouldn't be the face of ECW...if you notice they have been trying to find someone to be it...RVD didn't work, Sabu didn't work, The Big Show didn't work, Bobby Lashley worked, but he didn't have any real competition...thats why they kept using him on Raw and SD. They do need some people over there, and if they were to put Lashley back and give him some more names and actual competition, then ECW would be better off...
TNA= Second rate wrestling in my view...they are full of old talent...The Steiners..who the hell still likes the Steiners...Scott still using his played out persona...what a douche..Sting...granted I was excited to see him come back into wrestling, but after the first week or so it died off for me...Samoa Joe...now that dude is pretty badass...Kurt Angle...I was seriously pissed off he left, so I refuse to comment...I'll just say he took the cowards way out just because he wasn't going to get the WWE title...Christian Cage...I was actually happy for him when he left..he didn't get enough credit in the WWE for what he did...he is an amazing athelete...Rikishi? Why? I won't go there...

Thats a lot of typing...whew...

Yeah, your right about some of the TNA wrestlers but they still can put on a good show. Their X division is pretty good. Also, Jeff Hardy is an AMAZING athlete. So is Shannon Moore. Then need to push him more. I like him. He was one of the people that use to train with the Hardyz when they were younger in their ring in the middle of the woods.(only true Hardy fans know about that, like me:p) They'll figure it out though. Like I said, Vince is a smart man. He wouldn't be where he was if he was a dumbass.

P.S. Should I make a general discussion WWE thread? Seems like we always go off topic and just talk about other WWE issues. I think would should have a WWE thread like the UFC one we have. Just a thought.....a good thought???????

[Rocket]

It always does you're right...thats usually because someone makes a comment on one thing, then we go off on that comment and add in something about someone else, then that gets it really going...I think if we had a generall WWE thread it would be all over the place though, and people may still post their off news and we'd just go off topic in that...at least it's all about the WWE/TNA...so it's not super off topic...usually..Y2J FTMFW!!!!!!!

[Exane22]

Orton FTMFW rocket get it right :D I normally stay away from the WWE topics but ive been so disapointed as of late i decided it would be good for me to vent. So i dont really have an opinion on the whole WWE threads. Its off topic bc of rocket though, that i do know :p

[Nick G 42390]

Yeah that's true. Maybe a thread like that would be everywhere but I find out alot of interesting stuff and I don't wanna make a new thread everytime and don't wanna randomly post it in a thread about Y2J or something. For example, Kurt Angle got arrested for a DUI the other night. I don't wanna start a new thread for that cuz it might only have a few responses and I don't wanna post it in any of the threads open now cuz it is completely off topic, but still in the wrestling topic.

[Shinsetsu]

TNA suffers from not using the talent they have.
Doesn't TNA have Vince Russo as a writer? He did great writing for WWE... TNA... I'm happy to see Sting, but not so much. Glad to see the Roid Knight Himself *Steiner* around but after that Triple H Match his skills are just HORRIBLE. Probably due to his back problems and what not but yeah. Angle... well have fun in TNA, your best work was in WWE and probably wont have a wrestler who can make a interesting match up like he had with Benoit years ago. Abyss..... yeah Im kinda tired of Kane 2.0. AJ Styles deserves a better scene to show his talent on. Double J... no comment.

WWE just needs to collapse ECW into Raw/Smackdown to cut their loses. Dividing the roster in 3 ways with the talent getting hurt left and right could only lead to this happening. They also need better writers once Jericho comes back.

[Rocket]

Nick, I say you make a General WWE Discussion thread...we are def. going to need one as I want to hear about Angle's DUI...funny thing about him I seen...flipping thru about a month ago or so when he was fueding with Samoa Joe...they had his 'wife' on there...what I thought was funny about it that his wife is Asian if I'm not mistaken...

[Nick G 42390]

Nick, I say you make a General WWE Discussion thread...we are def. going to need one as I want to hear about Angle's DUI...funny thing about him I seen...flipping thru about a month ago or so when he was fueding with Samoa Joe...they had his 'wife' on there...what I thought was funny about it that his wife is Asian if I'm not mistaken...

Haha, alright. I'll make it right now. I'll pretty much own taht thread lol. I have lots of news and always will.

[Rocket]

Thats what I love about you! Ok...hurry up...make the damn thread already!!!

[TC Daywalker]

I feel really bad for cena right now but in the long run i think this injury might be in his favour. He held the title for too long and people were finally having enough of it.

With him out of the way for 6 months or more wil give people time with new champions and then when cena does come back people may be pleased to see him again atleast for a while.

I am a cena fan but i think WWE were pushing him too hard and it was just getting boring. That said though he always got the crowd going and when i saw raw in london the crowd went nuts when his music hit ( and he and hbk had a near 60 minute match with a great ending).

I just think it will be good for him personally but not the wwe as a company. They have lost a big player for a while!. Also i think when he does return he should go to smackdown again, they loved him over there.

[TURDBURGLAR16]

Man. It sucks, cuz I like Cena. Cena has been a big part for the WWE. He is defitnely a big star. It, is a big loss. But, that will be cool if orton thinks that he gets the title then jericho comes out and challenges him to the vacant title and then wins it! Cuz, I can't stand Orton!!! But, lets see what happens!

[Perxxxxx]

Cena is a great character with fantastic charisma , its a shame to see him out for so long but having said that , i think its about time there was a new wwe champ on RAW . I think wwe will be able to cope without Cena for a while and the change is good