Offical College Football Thread

[getbusy1242]

Didn't look like we had one and we need one so here it is. A few weeks in how is your team doing. Any think Florida will repeat? I think and crushing win over Tennessee helps a little. We here is to good discussions and rivalries. Remember boys and girls play nice it is only College Football!

[hopesfall2win]

Florida is garbage. Ut just can't call a play over 5 yards anymore, i think i'm done with them.

[Gr0infro]

I don't think florida can repeat. Too many good teams at the top. And so far my team Ducks are 3-0 and ranked 13th.

[Tele-Rock]

Florida can't repeat . . . because they won't get past LSU.

Geaux Tigers.:woop:

[Nick G 42390]

I agree, they're not gonna repeat. I'd be pissed if they do. To see the last 2 national champs in college football and basketball are from the same school would piss me off. I hate when a team just dominates and wins every single year. I don't think Florida can do it though. But, i'd rather see them win it than see USC win it.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yeah, florida's not gonna get passed lsu. the bayou bengals are gonna destroy everybody this year. too bad les miles is probably going to leave the sec for the big ten next year, because i'd say lloyd carr is gone. the uk-fla game is going to be a good one. and i'm gonna say this once and only once: the SEC is the real deal. pac10 is overrated, so is the big 10 and big 12.

[Gr0infro]

yeah, florida's not gonna get passed lsu. the bayou bengals are gonna destroy everybody this year. too bad les miles is probably going to leave the sec for the big ten next year, because i'd say lloyd carr is gone. the uk-fla game is going to be a good one. and i'm gonna say this once and only once: the SEC is the real deal. pac10 is overrated, so is the big 10 and big 12.

shocking... an SEC fan saying the Pac-10 is overrated. If anything they're as close to equals as any two conferences are.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

do you honestly think that oregon could beat florida? or usc beating lsu? that's the reason usc usually gets all the hype, they never play anybody.

[The Lion King 8]

My team is Alabama were doing good we've improved tremendously but we had a heart shattering OT loss to Georgia. I think the game that decides whether FL wins or not will be vs. LSU. Whoever wins that game is going to win the national championship, write that down.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yeah, one of my professors is a huge alabama fan. he usually goes on down to bryant-denny stadium to watch'em. he gave me some shit about UF beatin' the hell outta tennessee.

[getbusy1242]

I like how no one has said anything about the Big East. They have 5 teams ranked that is second only to SEC.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

the reason i haven't said anything about the big east is because look what happened to louisville. one loss to uk and their whole season is down the drain. west virginia might be good, yeah, but do they have a defense that can stop someone by the likes of tebow?

[mctennisd]

1. of the teams that the sec has ranked which are good (uf, lsu)

2. big east is new wac.. who can score 50 points

3. f - michigan.....go buckeyes c/o 07

[BackerMan]

3. f - michigan.....go buckeyes c/o 07

hey! i'm michigan fan. don't f**k me. heh.

[Death Elf]

GO BLUE!!!

[gatorbait]

Been a huge Gator fan for ten years now and I'm only 17. That school is getting very hard to get into and right now looks like I'll be going to USF next year. But after going to last night's USF/WVU game I'm sure excited to be attending more. It's tough to have to make the transition however.

And to the Florida repeating, not if we can't get by Auburn right now down 14-0.

[mctennisd]

This weekend has proved to be very interesting in college football. With over half the top 13 teams losing, A team such as USF, who to my knowledge is currently ranked the highest they have ever been could now become a top ten team.

This is another reason why I hate rankings and people saying how one conference is better than the rest. By the logic most people use as to who is better. USF beat Auburn who beat Florida. Who beat UCF. Thus does that mean USF is the best team in Florida and better than the gators?

Assuming USC, OSU and USF all win-out, would USF have a legit natl. champ arguement?

Since Oregon is the only team in the top 13 to lose to a higher ranked team should they be above the one loss teams?

All things to ponder until the "rankings" come out, at which time people can begin to complain about them.

[mctennisd]

My team is Alabama were doing good we've improved tremendously but we had a heart shattering OT loss to Georgia. I think the game that decides whether FL wins or not will be vs. LSU. Whoever wins that game is going to win the national championship, write that down.

How can u claim this. there is a chance they will play each other in atl for the sec crown...meaning they could each beat each other knocking each other out of natl title contention.

Heck, now that they lost to auburn its possible Kentucky could be the sec east rep this year...now thats funny.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

it is kinda funny. and i'm a die hard vols fan, but this might be uk's year in the sec. of course the only really good team they've beaten is arkansas, but they're doing better than i expected them to. oh and i don't think that florida's gonna win another nat'l championship, auburn beat'em by 3. lsu on the other hand, they look prime to move up to #1 next week from usc's poor preformance against udub.

[1138]

Oregon might be on of the first teams to lose with a ranking out of the top ten and move deep into the top ten. Seriously, what happened?

Oklahoma had no business losing to anyone the way they've been playing, especially not Colorado. Same goes for Florida, who will probably beat LSU this week. USC just needs to keep playing ranked opponents because they just don't practice for these games. They really don't care about them.

Anyway, we probably have the same #1 and #2, and a bunch of other teams thrown into the mix that entered because other teams didn't deserve it, and not because they did.

Also, who'd have thunk it that Ohio State would be ranked higher than Michigan now?

[Gr0infro]

Cal is #3? ok, i'm a pac-10 supporter and a Oregon fan. Cal does not deserve to be that high. Got a win on the right saturday i guess.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

i do believe that lsu is ranked #1, and wow, what is that? uk is ranked #8. the sec has 3 teams ranked in the top 10, and 4 in the top 15. so i don't wanna hear anymore shit about how lousy the sec is or how great anybody else is.

[gatorbait]

I hate how some think the SEC is overrated. It's clearly the best and toughest conference around top to bottom. When you say a team with one or two losses is off or not that good this year it's usually because everyone is playing one another giving each other losses. Week in and week out there's a handful of good games which is much more then you can say for many of the other BCS conferences.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

you know, even though you're a gator fan, i agree with you 100%(someone should write that down somewhere). the sec is chock full of great rivalry games, and what's really awesome is, almost every team in the confrence is a rival to everyone else.

[matthewaburns]

Man what a weekend in football. Been some awesome ass games this weekend. I think I wore my remote out flipping channels.

[1138]

I don't know if the SEC could really beat a team like California. The SEC generally plays a physical, boring game of football and I think Cal is speedy enough that if they get ahead early they could rout a team like Florida or LSU. I mean, LSU hasn't really proved anything to me yet. They beat a team that everyone knew wasn't worth it's #9 ranking. Despite what everything says, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who thought Texas was the 7th best team in the country going into this week. I certainly think Oregon and LSU could go to either team and that the Ducks could easily beat anyone else in the conference.

USC just plays down to their opponent. The USC that played Idaho and Washington isn't the USC that played Nebraska. They're the unquestioned #1 team in the country, in my book. I honestly think they could beat some NFL teams.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. alright. lets see cal's big high powered offense go up against lsu's defense. honestly. and southern cal is so damned over rated it's not funny. the year the they played oklahoma in the sugar bowl was a joke. it should have been auburn playing for that national championship. auburns defense that year would have shut down usc's "explosive" offense, even with president bush. I honestly don't see anyone beating LSU this year.

[Tele-Rock]

I don't know if the SEC could really beat a team like California. The SEC generally plays a physical, boring game of football and I think Cal is speedy enough that if they get ahead early they could rout a team like Florida or LSU. I mean, LSU hasn't really proved anything to me yet.

You obviously haven't been watching much LSU ball this year. Not only did they beat Virginia Tech . . . they completely shut them down to nothing . . . it was one of the most lopsided football games I've ever seen. Then they beat South Carolina convincingly . . .

SEC football is not boring by any stretch . . . LSU is the number one team in college football this year . . . The only time they've looked remotely bad this year was in the first half against Miss. St. and this past weekend against Tulane. Both games they had a ranked opponent to play the next week and may have been guilty of looking ahead. Both games they came back and won convincingly.

LSU has what may be the best defenses in college ball history . . . yes, I said it . . . they may be the best ever at defense. They are also one of the fastest all around teams in college this year. Faster than California, so I don't buy the California speed arguement.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

thank you. finally someone with some sense to recognize a great defense when they see one. yeah, offense wins games, but defense wins championships..

[Chilidog Chaos]

I bleed black and gold! CU is doing much better than last year!

[Shinobi273]

UH Warriors! Undefeated this season?

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yeah they are i do believe. but uh never plays anyone. and they've always got a great qb, so nothing new from the island.

[Gr0infro]

they have a good quarterback with good recievers playing bad teams with bad corners. that's all hawaii is. same thing they are every year

[Shinobi273]

No good team wants to play UH because they have nothing to gain by winning and lots to lose by losing. Plus it is really far if they come to Hawaii. WAC teams wanted UH to pay for them to play in Hawaii because of travel costs, so we were like, can you pay our travel cost when we go play at your house? Seriously though, it is hard to get teams to play UH for some reason. Maybe it is the guy who is supposed to be filling our schedule, but we had to play 2 AA teams because we couldn't fill the spots. It also doesn't help that there is a big time difference for the East Coast, by the time the game is starting, people are going to bed already. Hawaii scores have to get printed in Monday's paper.

[getbusy1242]

I which someone would challenge UH because i wanna see their true potential. No one gives them respect because they say they always pass that is why they have good QBs. Well if they always pass shouldn't the other team drop into a dime and idk defend the pass.

Oh yeah i am going to Mizzou vs. Nebraska and Mizzou is finally getting respect this year hell yeah hope we don't mess up.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

mizzou hasn't been doing so hot since brad smith left. i'm not taking anything away from them, they're still a pretty good team, just having some down years.

[Shinobi273]

UH uses alot of recievers that are pretty quick and the run can still get 1st downs. It's pretty hard to defend against. I wish UH could get a decent opponent, blowouts are getting pretty old. Nevada game was good though, won by one point. Brennan was injured though, just shot him full of painkillers like a berserker.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

UH has had a few good qb's, but where are they now? timmy chang, where's he at? i haven't heard anything about him in a while.

[Shinobi273]

lol chang sucked, he choked all the time. rolovitch only played one season.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

haha, i think it's funny how their coach is always wearing his hawaiian shirt instead of a polo or something.

[getbusy1242]

mizzou hasn't been doing so hot since brad smith left. i'm not taking anything away from them, they're still a pretty good team, just having some down years.

they are ranked 17th in the nation i don't call that a down year.

[Shinobi273]

haha, i think it's funny how their coach is always wearing his hawaiian shirt instead of a polo or something.

I think it is a luck thing. He probably thinks it bring luck to him and the team. I have heard of more bizzare game rituals than wering aloha shirts.

[gatorbait]

I don't know if the SEC could really beat a team like California. The SEC generally plays a physical, boring game of football and I think Cal is speedy enough that if they get ahead early they could rout a team like Florida or LSU.

Are you serious about that? You have got to be kidding me. You got the physical part right but by no means is it boring. You get much better quality of play in SEC games and they play football closest to what the NFL is like. And did you not see the national championship game last year, not only Florida but the speed in the SEC lies in the defenses. You can't pull that running sideline to sideline around our defenses, just doesn't work. Cal is a top team in the PAC 10 and they played very well against Tennessee at home but the Gators routed them as well. The PAC 10 is possibly the second best but their style of play will never have what it takes to over take the SEC. And if it wasn't for USC PAC 10 wouldn't even be worth the mention. SEC is loaded top to bottom except for 2 or 3 teams each season.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

very well put. the teams in the sec always have great defenses. look at what auburn did to florida, they shut tebow down pretty much. and it's true you can't do the east/west running thing in the sec, auburn had maybe 60 yards rushing that game, florida'a defense is too quick for anything like that, much like the rest of the teams.

[mctennisd]

way to go uk,,,,number 8.

i find it funny how i brought up the argument about whether or not usf was the best team in florida and then yesterday on espn....they had the same argument....i wonder if kirk herbstreet reads these forums??

on another note...im finally glad wisconsin and ohio state play this year... the last two years both have had excellent seasons but didnt play each other...the badgers are claiming they are the best in the big ten this year and it makes me sick....GO BUCKS

[mctennisd]

Are you serious about that? You have got to be kidding me. You got the physical part right but by no means is it boring. You get much better quality of play in SEC games and they play football closest to what the NFL is like. And did you not see the national championship game last year, not only Florida but the speed in the SEC lies in the defenses. You can't pull that running sideline to sideline around our defenses, just doesn't work. Cal is a top team in the PAC 10 and they played very well against Tennessee at home but the Gators routed them as well. The PAC 10 is possibly the second best but their style of play will never have what it takes to over take the SEC. And if it wasn't for USC PAC 10 wouldn't even be worth the mention. SEC is loaded top to bottom except for 2 or 3 teams each season.

Of course they play a pro style of football... Hell half the coaches are NFL tried and couldnt make its....

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

haha, yeah, we should be the writers for espn, what does herbstreit know? ah, i guess if we had an o.k. college career and then wasn't good enough for the pros, we chould be an espn college football analyst.

[mctennisd]

I havent seen anyone start to make heisman trophy speeches....so I thought I would start it.

1. Andre Woodson (UK)
2. Chris "Beanie" Wells (OSU)
3. Deshawn Jackson (Cal)
4. George Selvie (USF)
5. Matt Ryan (BC)
6. Matt Flynn (LSU)

Unfortunately, it will probably be Flynn or Booty from USC.

[Gr0infro]

haha, yeah, we should be the writers for espn, what does herbstreit know? ah, i guess if we had an o.k. college career and then wasn't good enough for the pros, we chould be an espn college football analyst.

wow. herbstreit is one of the premier writers for ESPN. pretty much everyone listens to him for a reason. he's right.

[mctennisd]

wow. herbstreit is one of the premier writers for ESPN. pretty much everyone listens to him for a reason. he's right.

Herbstreit who predicted a shutout for OK vs. Col, who predicted a double digit win by UF against Aub, and the same Herbie who betrayed the alma mater we share and chose Michi*an- its worse than a cuss word where i went to school- to beat OSU last year...cuz he is always right...haha your funny....

[XGC XCore]

hahah its been a disappointing and confusing season so far for my team, georgia tech.

we beat #13 clemson but lost to uva, the other loss came to now #7 boston college.

as for the SEC they are overranked.

yeah LSU is great and Florida is showing strengths even with a loss to auburn. but the pac-10 is defiently shining through with the SEC second and the ACC close behind.

as for LSU, sorry guys they cant be beat.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

hahah its been a disappointing and confusing season so far for my team, georgia tech.

we beat #13 clemson but lost to uva, the other loss came to now #7 boston college.

as for the SEC they are overranked.

yeah LSU is great and Florida is showing strengths even with a loss to auburn. but the pac-10 is defiently shining through with the SEC second and the ACC close behind.

as for LSU, sorry guys they cant be beat.

haha, yeah, and the sec has 5 teams in the top 15 to the pac 10's 3.

[Gr0infro]

as of right now the sec is playing better ball. it's what expected though. really if you look at the pipeline for most of those schools, it's where most of the best talent is coming from. the pac 10 aside from USC has to grab their guys mostly from wash, ore, idaho, arizona, nevada and cali. not really a hotbed of football talent.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

true. that's why teams like lsu and florida are so good, look at where they get their players. florida is a premier pipeline state.

[Death Elf]

Hey is there any chance that if Michigan wins out that they can still make it to the rose bowl? Go Blue!

[Blind x360a]

No aren't they 2-3^^?
I hope MD beats Georgia Tech today.
Hoping for a good game.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

wow, this weekend was great, but not as good as last weekend. usc finally got beat showing them for the sissys they are, my vols beat up on georgia pretty bad, and lsu won. overall, i give this weekend an A-.

[Nick G 42390]

Wow, that Kentucky Vs. LSU game was nuts! It just ended and LSU lost in the 3rd overtime. What a game. Man, no team is safe this year. Seems like every top 25 team is vunerable and can be touched. What an upset year this college football year is turning into.

P.S. What a great catch at the end for Kentucky to win it.

[Frakus]

Right on Nick that game was so intense. Man That leaves OSU, CAL and BC now fighting for the top spots. I can't believe how bad purdue played against Michigan today also. To bad Mike Hart who was a contender for Heisman got hurt in the first quarter.

[1138]

I just want to say that all of the conferences are equally bad and we should no longer discuss them. Seriously, Andre Woodson isn't even that good. LSU should have smacked him around and completely kept him and his team out of sight for the rest of the season, sort of like with what happened to Louisville (although Brohm is the real deal). They should have just kept pounding the ball with Jacob Hester until his legs fell off. They had no reason to pass if Kentucky can't stop the run.

Also, USF and Ohio State are the only teams who are really safe from upsets. Ohio State's only challenge will be Michigan, but as long as they can keep Mike Hart under even 150 yards they should win with ease. They've got some defense. Which is really why USF is also on my shortlist. They've got two stud corners and a very solid linebacking corps.

On a side note no one besides Mike Hart deserves to even be in New York when he gets the Heisman. Colt Brennan throws too many interceptions, John David Booty isn't a leader, and Brian Brohm lost too many times. The only other comparable player is Darren McFadden. Hart will win, though, because that's what he does: win. By week three we all knew Michigan didn't deserve any of the hype they received going into the season. They were facing another battered school, Notre Dame, and even with the status of quarterback Chad Henne uncertain Hart basically said that he's the only person worth his weight on the team and he's going to do everything in his power to make Michigan respectable. And he has. He's the only reason they probably will be ranked this week or next.
He's carried the team on his back and is certainly the most worthy candidate. Darren McFadden is a different story. He's probably more talented than Hart but he's just not a winner. He doesn't play in the end of games. He doesn't lead his team to victories. He never gives the extra effort. We all know Doug Flutie wasn't the most talented football player the year he won, but you'd have a very hard time convincing someone that he was undeserving of the Heisman.

[megamoviejohn]

Arkansas just took the lead with a little over a minute left! 7-6! What a good game! Alabama also sadly sucks. Every game is scary and hard to watch.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

lmao. obviously you've never played against brian brohm in high school. brohm isn't the real deal, the talent around him was, and notice i said was, the real deal. on a second note, mike hart sucks my left testicle. he can't play 3 quarters without injuring himself to make everyone feel sorry for him, that's why michigan sucks ass this year. with that said, i'm glad cal lost, i'm glad lsu lost.

[Leb23ron]

Arkansas just took the lead with a little over a minute left! 7-6! What a good game! Alabama also sadly sucks. Every game is scary and hard to watch.

I hate games like this when there's barely any scoring.

[megamoviejohn]

And Auburn wins...that are so damn lucky, barely win again.

[Chilidog Chaos]

I disagree. Brennan and Hart should both be in New York. Brennan has a great arm and is smart(football smart)lol.

[CrazyFaucker]

I will join in on this topic more when my team quits embarrassing me. But as for this year in general, I think it's been great for college football. More and more great athletes are willing to go to a smaller school for playing time, meaning the powerhouse schools of old might not be all that dominating anymore. Or it could just be a coincidence of crazy ass upsets week in and week out. Either way it’s been fun to watch.

[ClutchPapi34]

i live in columbus and i am a huge ohio state fan. losing to florida in two different championships was bad... But florida has already lost twice and osu is ranked #1

[Nick G 42390]

Anyone watch the USF/Rutgers game? Was a good game, I watched pretty much all of it. Rutgers won 30-27. This year has been horrible for top 5 teams. Upset after upset this year.

[BackerMan]

what a season of upsets... I wonder if ohio state will be next... probably until the final game against Michigan.

[Nick G 42390]

what a season of upsets... I wonder if ohio state will be next... probably until the final game against Michigan.

We can only hope so. I think if Ohio State ends up losing a game and if USF can win the rest of their games I think they deserve to be in the BCS title game. If every team in the top 25 has at least 1 loss, I think USF should definetly be at least the 1 or 2 team and get a shot at the championship.

[BackerMan]

We can only hope so. I think if Ohio State ends up losing a game and if USF can win the rest of their games I think they deserve to be in the BCS title game. If every team in the top 25 has at least 1 loss, I think USF should definetly be at least the 1 or 2 team and get a shot at the championship.

I don't think USF can come back.

I think LSU will be back in top 2 if they beat Auburn this weekend.

[Nick G 42390]

I don't think USF can come back.

I think LSU will be back in top 2 if they beat Auburn this weekend.

Probably. This season is gonna be a great exapmle of why there should be a playoff in college football because alot of good teams are gonna get screwed outta their shot at the championship.

[TURDBURGLAR16]

Yea, that was a good game. Yea, man this past week has been a lot of upsets. This, whole season has been a lot of upsets. Lets, see how many upsets there will be this coming up week.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

i think that auburn will beat ls who, again, and usf has no place even being in the bcs title game. yeah, they beat teams, but not very good teams. you saw what they did against rutgers. i just hope ut can outlast alabama and uk can upset florida.

[Nick G 42390]

i think that auburn will beat ls who, again, and usf has no place even being in the bcs title game. yeah, they beat teams, but not very good teams. you saw what they did against rutgers. i just hope ut can outlast alabama and uk can upset florida.

I still say college football needs a playoff system. I mean, just because a team is ranked number 1 doesn't mean they are the best team out there. Playoff's would make the sport much much better.

[TURDBURGLAR16]

I still say college football needs a playoff system. I mean, just because a team is ranked number 1 doesn't mean they are the best team out there. Playoff's would make the sport much much better.

Yea, I will have to agree with you about that. Cuz, its mostly the same team in the top 10-15. They, usually rank the same teams like USC, Michigan, Louiville, Ohio State, etc. The rankings are always the most popular schools, then when one team that gets to like 18th or something for example lets say Rutgers and then if they lost to Syracuse, then they would fall way down! Like, when Michigan lost to that one college the division 2 or whatever division they were in. Michigan was still ranked up there. So, yea idk they need to do something new.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

and again, i agree with you both. the bcs is so fucked up from head to toe, nobody knows anything until the end of the year.

[Nick G 42390]

and again, i agree with you both. the bcs is so fucked up from head to toe, nobody knows anything until the end of the year.

Yes it is. The BCS is the worst thing to ever happen to college football. It's a joke and unfair to alot of good schools. I bet if there was a playoff system USC would not have won all those championships when Matt Leinart was there. Was it 2 or 3 in a row? Well, if there was a playoff system they would have won 1 at the most. I hope they get rid of the BCS soon and add a playoff to the sport.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yes, i think they should do just like college basketball and have march madness, only like december madness or something?

[Nick G 42390]

yes, i think they should do just like college basketball and have march madness, only like december madness or something?

Funny you say that because I was think the exact same thing earlier today. I don't know if they would do it with as many teams as basketball because that would add like 5 or 6 extra games if not more for the winner. But they should do something like that. It would make the sport more fun to watch and also more exciting I think.

[gatorbait]

i think that auburn will beat ls who, again, and usf has no place even being in the bcs title game. yeah, they beat teams, but not very good teams. you saw what they did against rutgers. i just hope ut can outlast alabama and uk can upset florida.

It's ashame that it's the name of the team and history that gets put into the decision on who's the better team that year.

Boise St. Oklahoma anyone???

I watched the whole game on Thursday night and it was a heart breaker. Rutgers still is not a bad team by any means and USF passed up perfect opportunities to take that game. But USF is a legit team my friend. Last time I checked Auburn at night on the road and West Virginia aren't half bad teams. Even my Gators couldn't handle Auburn and that game was at home. Going on the road and taking out a top SEC team is no simple task even for the teams in the SEC. They still have Cincy, Uconn, and Louisville which aren't terrible teams but I think USF will finish with the one loss and will likely still get a BCS bid by winning the Big East and they'll be ready for whichever powerhouse wants to take them on.

In 11 years to go from nothing to #2 is one of the greatest college sports stories mentioning a team like Rutgers didn't even win their first bowl game until 2006 and they've been around since 1869. It's a popularity contest and that's it. I still love the game though and getting ready for the big one at 3:30. Who'd a thunk Kentucky would be a major game to help save our season?

[Nick G 42390]

The upsets are already starting today. Number 6 South Carolina was beat by unranked Vanderbilt 17-6. Tennesse was beat by Alabama. Flordia is beting Kentucky at the moment and UCLA is only down by 4 to Cal. Hmmm, let's so how many upsets we end up with today...

[gatorbait]

Florida wouldn't be an upset. They're a 6.5 point favorite.

[Nick G 42390]

Florida wouldn't be an upset. They're a 6.5 point favorite.

That shit doesn't matter. If you watch any kind of sport, you know that doesn't matter. This year in college football is a perfect explain that that kinda stuff doesn't matter.

[gatorbait]

The fact that they are the FAVORITE doesn't matter? Then how do you get an upset? An upset is an underdog winning over a favorite, I watch and attend and follow plenty of sports my friend and that's what an upset is. Florida was the favorite going in plain and simple. I've been following college football heavily like I always have been and there have been plenty of upsets because the UNDERDOG beat the FAVORITE.

[Nick G 42390]

The fact that they are the FAVORITE doesn't matter? Then how do you get an upset? An upset is an underdog winning over a favorite, I watch and attend and follow plenty of sports my friend and that's what an upset is. Florida was the favorite going in plain and simple. I've been following college football heavily like I always have been and there have been plenty of upsets because the UNDERDOG beat the FAVORITE.

No, you said they are a 6.5 point favorite. THAT doesn't matter in sports. Those lines and favorite by 2 scores and shit don't matter in sports.

[gatorbait]

Okay well let me know the next time a favorite beats an underdog and it's an upset. I understand when the spread isn't much so it's a close game as in the Alabama and Tennessee game where the spread was 0.0 yet you have that as an upset, fact that they blew UT out was more of the upset for me. And at least use English, I didn't understand what that last sentence was trying to say at all.

And you told me what I already said, I said it in that line you even pulled out that they were a 6.5 point FAVORITE which is the point of an upset to occur, the underdog winning. Some games I don't even know if you can really have an upset occur or not, some teams are just equals going into the game.

[Nick G 42390]

Your obviously completely missing what I'm talking about or just don't understand so I'll drop it.

And the last sentence said it doesn't matter if some one is a favorite by 2 scores meaning, if a team is projected to win a game by a 2 touchdown lead that doesn't matter. Perfect example would be Michigan and Appalachin State. Michigan was probably the favorite by 2 or 3 touchdowns in that game and look what happened. All i'm saying is lately it doesn't matter who's ranked in the top 25 or who the favorite is or what the lines are.

[gatorbait]

No I didn't miss your point. I understand where in some cases there isn't a clear favorite or underdog. Michigan clearly got upset, just because there have been a lot of rather large upsets this season the fact that a team is a two score favorite and loses, say in next weeks Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and the Gators lose, I would still consider that an upset as would many regardless of the nature of the upset this season. If anything we just don't know what to expect this season which is why Herbstreit picked the Gators over LSU over in Baton Rouge a few weeks ago because he said you gotta expect the unexpected. You've even called a few of those upsets yourself meaning there still are upsets going on regardless if no one can figure them out.

On the subject matter, you already mentioned South Carolina. But Cal dropped another one against UCLA and Auburn is up on LSU. Gotta love college football though.

And Oregon is now tied with Washington.

[Leb23ron]

The LSU Auburn game is pretty good so far, hopefully it goes to OT just to be better.

[Nick G 42390]

I was watching the Cal/UCLA and the Flordia/Kentucky games earlier. They were both good games. Unfortunetly, I had to leave when there was about 7 minutes left in each game and didn't get to see the ending to them and I've yet to see the final scores. I hope Kentucky came back and won.

EDIT: Damn it! Just saw the Flordia/Kentucky highlights. Damn gators won. Oh well. How about Andre' Woodson for Kentucky though? Over 400 yards passing and 5 TD's in a losing effort? Damn...

[gatorbait]

Haha, yeah, every second Kentucky was inching closer to the Gators I kept telling my Dad that Tebow is just going to lead them back down. It was already going to be a high scoring affair, Woodson did a great job keeping his team in the game. Tebow for sure has to be in the top 2 for heisman consideration at this point.

[Nick G 42390]

Haha, yeah, every second Kentucky was inching closer to the Gators I kept telling my Dad that Tebow is just going to lead them back down. It was already going to be a high scoring affair, Woodson did a great job keeping his team in the game. Tebow for sure has to be in the top 2 for heisman consideration at this point.

Yeah, Tebow is most likely in the top 2. I think Woodson should be considered too though. He's been playing really good. We'll just have to wait and see at the end of the year.

Also, was just atching ESPNEWS and they said that 12 times this year a top 10 team has been beat by an unranked team. That's crazy. I can't remember a year of college football since I've started watching it that has had that many top 10 teams beat by an unranked.

[gatorbait]

Some of those unranked teams were the home team and weren't very bad ones but still an impressive stat. We've already had some bizarre scenarios such as a Div 2-A school ( I know they changed the names) beating a Div 1-A school and on the road at Mich of all places to send a team in the top 5 out of the rankings for the first time, we had like 5 or 6 top 10 teams lose in one week and had the one and two lose on the same day in years. The unpredictability is what makes this game so great. Too bad it's the computers that end up trying to figure it out and if we can't figure it out how the hell is a computer going to tell us who should be playing.

[Nick G 42390]

Yeah I know. I find the whole college football ranking system and bowl system horrible and it needs to change. Who knows if it ever will though.

Also, I suggest all of you to turn your tv to ABC and watch the rest of the Illinois/Michigan game. It's been a great one so far and Illinois better win it or i'm gonna be pissed!

[gatorbait]

I've got a lot of respect for Zook. Such a nice guy but just wasn't suited for the job at UF. Glad to see he's got the Illini winning again.

[Nick G 42390]

I'm glad to see them winning too. It finally gives me a good hometown team to cheer for in college football. We never do good. Northwestern never does good and neither does Illinois at least not in football. It's good to see them starting to play good and it was sooo nice to watch them beat Wisconsin and get back into the top 25 even though they lost the next week and were out of it. I think if they win this game they'll be back in the top 25 though.

[Gr0infro]

Ahh, my wonderful Ducks beat the Trojans. this feels nice. It's pretty much all i wanted out of this season but i'm getting so much more. #4 in the nation, i'll find out if we moved above #5 in the BCS later tonight, NC hopes, and a QB who could be top 3 in heisman votes after this game. For a Pac-10 team to get this kind of attention that isn't USC is nice. I just wish the retarded pac-10 commisioner would pull his head out of his ass and let more of the big games (like USC vs Oregon) on national TV. he's screwing his own conference.

[megamoviejohn]

Alabama, why!?!? Should have beaten LSU, John Parker Wilson sucks so much dick. If he did good at the beggining of games we would have won. Also wow at LSU and the penalties, damn.

[Gr0infro]

i can't believe they got away with another one. I'm destined to finish #3 in the BCS again. i hate being on the west coast.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

if you ask me, oregon should be #2. i love dennis dixon and the oregon O. LSWHO's defense hasn't been showing up since their loss to kentucky.

[Gr0infro]

if you ask me, oregon should be #2. i love dennis dixon and the oregon O. LSWHO's defense hasn't been showing up since their loss to kentucky.

i love you. heterosexually. smartest man ever.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

you mean dearly, not queerly, haha.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

wow, tennessee won, ohio state is losing, this season is nuts.

[Chilidog Chaos]

Ohio State lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yessssssssssssss, it's about time. i didn't think any team would go undefeated this year.

[Gr0infro]

Great, now all i have to worry about is kansas and oklahoma leapfrogging my team. god i hate being in the pac 10

[Barrthnine]

Great, now all i have to worry about is kansas and oklahoma leapfrogging my team. god i hate being in the pac 10

There's no way one of those teams jumps over Oregon. They've looked sick all year and even with Michigan's loss to Illinois, the Ducks win in Ann Arbor looks better than just about anything the Jayhawks and Sooners have put up. If Oregon wins out, they'll be in the National Championship game.

[Crusher524]

If the Jayhawks win out I can't imagine an undefeated team from the Big 12 being shut out of the National Title Game. They still have to play in the Big 12 championship, there is only one solution to the BCS, playoff system

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

oregon will end up playing for a bcs title. it's true they don't get much coverage, but they've been flawless when they got it. i also want to apologize to whoever i offended by saying lsu was beter; lsu's defense was great, until it stopped showing up after the uk game. kansas should be #1 automatically, just because they're undefeated. However, i don't think they'll get passed oklahoma in the big 12 title game.

[Bodangles]

warning: caps lock rant ahead.

I AM SICK OF MISSOURI TEAMS BEING UNDERRATED. WHEN THE CARDINALS WON THE WORLD SERIES TWO YEARS AGO, WE GOT A BOX IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE WASHINGTON POST. AND NOW THE TIGERS ARE 9-1 AND NOBODY. I MEAN NOBODY HAS SAID A THING. WE LOST ONE GAME TO OKLAHOMA, BY 10. KANSAS HAS NOT PLAYED ONE, COUNT EM ONE, RANKED TEAM. WHO IN THE HELL IS SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA? WE WERE UNDEFEATED UNTIL WE PLAYED OKLAHOMA, WHICH WAS A TIED GAME UP UNTIL ABOUT 6 LEFT IN THE 4TH. AND NOW OHIO STATE LOSES TO...ILLINOIS. AND MISSOURI BEAT...ILLINOIS. MISSOURI PLAYS KANSAS THE WEEK AFTER NEXT. AND WHEN WE BEAT THEM, WE WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN A RANK. WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE MISSOURI.

OH AND AT ALMIGHTY CREATOR OF THIS THREAD, HOW DARE YOU DISGRACE MISSOURI BY CHEERING FOR THE GATORS. THE LORD WILL SMYTE YOU, BASTARD.

end.

[GrandAdmlStrife]

I remember before the season lots of folks saying how weak the Big 12 was and now look, 3 of the top 5 BCS teams are Big 12.

I think it will be Kansas v Oregon for the National Title.

But as a Longhorn fan, I really enjoyed rivals.com prediction for the Holiday Bowl: a rematch between Texas and USC. God I hope that pans out, just to get another shot at beating them to prove to the USC lovers that the Championship was no fluke. I'll never forgive them for saying after the game that it didn't count in their minds and as far as they were concerned they were undefeated and national champs.


I'll be laughing my rear off after they lose to us again and then get slapped with fines, sanctions, and forfeitures for the Reggie Bush stuff. :p

[Crusher524]

Am I the only one who thinks there is too many bowl games? Even though I would love to see USC-Texas play again, even though both are without the star power they used to have. Navy accepted a bid to play in some bowl game today, forget the title. So it begins.

[Bodangles]

way too many bowls. there should be the top..6? i think that's how many...orange, rose, fiesta, sugar...maybe only 4. anyways, Strife, if we count texas we have 4 of the big 12 in the top 15 :).

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

way too many bowls. there should be the top..6? i think that's how many...orange, rose, fiesta, sugar...maybe only 4. anyways, Strife, if we count texas we have 4 of the big 12 in the top 15 :).

and a few weeks ago, the sec was the same way. 4 out of the top 10 were from the sec. as for the rest of the season, it's a coin toss in my book, i do know this though: lsu doesn't deserve to be #1. Oregon should be holding down that spot and if they don't give oregon a shot at the bcs title, i'll be pissed.

[Bodangles]

well, hypothetically, if kansas SOMEHOW defeats missouri in a battle of epic proportions, they have to play in the BCS title game. undefeated teams not getting a shot is ridiculous. oh and one thing i left out of my rant is how sick i am of teams jumping 27 ranks because of who they are. michigan went from 40 to 22 to 12 in 3 weeks. they were 12 with 3 losses! USC stayed in the top 10 after losing to stanford! and last i checked kentucky has three losses this year. lsu should not be number 1. i hate the bcs although without it missouri probably wouldn't be ranked.

[Crusher524]

I agree, the BCS is get rid of the C and you have BS. Me and my buddy were actually talking about how the BCS is and I brought up this idea of a playoff system.

8 teams, these 8 teams come from your Original 4 BCS games(Orange, Fiesta, Sugar, Rose) you get rid of the BCS National Title game in a sense. You have the 8 teams from the Original 4 BCS games battle it out in a playoff system. So 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5. Next week 4 teams highest seed vs lowest, 2nd highest vs 2nd lowest. Next week you have the National Title game. You will still have teams complaining but it shouldn't leave an undefeated team out of the hunt for the national title. Also only 6 teams are guaranteed, 7 if Notre Dame has a good year, so this still allows a team like Boise State to make it into the playoffs.

Thoughts?

[Bodangles]

not a bad idea at all, but once again the rankings will be disputed. all in all i agree with your playoff idea, but i wish there was a solid way to rank college teams.

[Gr0infro]

well, hypothetically, if kansas SOMEHOW defeats missouri in a battle of epic proportions, they have to play in the BCS title game. undefeated teams not getting a shot is ridiculous. oh and one thing i left out of my rant is how sick i am of teams jumping 27 ranks because of who they are. michigan went from 40 to 22 to 12 in 3 weeks. they were 12 with 3 losses! USC stayed in the top 10 after losing to stanford! and last i checked kentucky has three losses this year. lsu should not be number 1. i hate the bcs although without it missouri probably wouldn't be ranked.

Kansas leapfrogs if they beat Mizzou (doubt it though. missouri is WAY better), then Oklahoma. that's 2 big games at the end of the season. oregon plays Arizona, UCLA, and oregon state. yeah, not much there. Oklahoma could jump UO if they win the Big 12 championship. pretty much we have to win each game by 50 to stay in it. i hate the BCS. So i'm just hoping someone beats LSU.

[Bodangles]

Kansas leapfrogs if they beat Mizzou (doubt it though. missouri is WAY better), then Oklahoma. that's 2 big games at the end of the season. oregon plays Arizona, UCLA, and oregon state. yeah, not much there. Oklahoma could jump UO if they win the Big 12 championship. pretty much we have to win each game by 50 to stay in it. i hate the BCS. So i'm just hoping someone beats LSU.

:) i like you. but oregon is a super solid team. if by some miracle lsu and oklahoma lost and then we beat kansas and we had to play oregon in the title game, i think it would be a damn good game. 37-35. missouri of course :P. but we can't forget that ohio state and usc are always title contenders. always.

[Gr0infro]

If either ohio state or USC get in, i'm never watching college football again

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

well, usc or ohio state is always going to be ranked #1 pre-season. that's a fact.

[Gr0infro]

yeah, i meant this season. you have to expect they'll be back in it. this could be the one chance i get to see oregon in the NC.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yeah screw usc and ohio state. oregon hasn't had a season this good since brooks left.

[Bodangles]

seriously if oregon, oklahoma, ohio state, USC, and of course mizzou win out and either of them [OSU USC] break top 4, i'm gonna flip shit. both lost to the unranked. still ranked. michigan has lost 4 now and they're ranked! some bullshit the BCS is.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

yeah, they shouldn't have dickwad voters like herbstreit on their voting polls. the cocksucker would pull for osu everytime. it's like, whoever the voter played for, or coached for, they pull for them, and it's totally biased. prime example: lou holtz picks south carolina and notre dame in every game they've played this year. notre dame sucks as we all can see, and usc has lost at least 3 or 4 games.

[Gr0infro]

well great. i was at the Oregon-Arizona game tonight and as soon as dixon went down it was amazing how much more confidence arizona played with. this hurts.

[Death Elf]

michigan has lost 4 now and they're ranked! some bullshit the BCS is.

Michigan has only lost 3.

[Barrthnine]

And now Oregon goes down. Damn, you REALLY don't want to be ranked #2 this year. I wonder if Kansas gets some love from the voters now? What ana amazing year for college football.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

jesus...i bet oklahoma goes to #2...

[Tibbs]

Dose any one think that west Virginia well skip any team this sunday in the bcs standing?

[Barrthnine]

Dose any one think that west Virginia well skip any team this sunday in the bcs standing?

They kind of pulled one out against Louisville, but I suppose its possible. I do have a hard time seeing them jump over a one-loss Oklahoma and an undefeated Kansas, regardless of what I think about the strength of the Big 12 North this year. If Kansas can't beat Missouri this week, then maybe West Virginia hops over them.

[Bodangles]

yea michigan only has 3, that is my fault. anyways, missouri will get jumped. why? nobody knows. but since oregon lost, (roflcopter) we will be 4, after beating poor Kansas State. and then WVU will beat some high school and jump to 3. BUT LSU can so lose in the long/short run so don't count out our title shot! especially since we play a top teams in Kansas. because we are going to go pwnasaurus rex on them.

[1138]

Well, Oklahoma's going to lose to Texas Tech this weekend, so I certainly think WVU can do some big jumping. Kansas will demolish Iowa State, but they won't beat Missouri. Likewise, Oklahoma will repeat its success against Mizzou earlier in the year in the Conference Championship Game. So I do think either WVU or Ohio State can get into the National Championship game. I'm not so sure if I'd like that, though. I want to see a game with a team that can beat LSU, so ideally Oklahoma or Kansas should play them. I just don't think it's going to happen.

Poor Oregon, though. It really isn't fair that they get kicked out of the Championship race because Dennis Dixon went out early and they had to bring in Ryan Leaf's brother. It's almost comical at that point, like bringing in Vinny Testaverde or Eric Gagne.

[Barrthnine]

especially since we play a top teams in Kansas. because we are going to go pwnasaurus rex on them.

I just heard about the different shirts that the students from Mizzou and Kansas are wearing. I love the fact that they're talking trash that goes back to before the Civil War! Well done all the way around.

Poor Oregon, though. It really isn't fair that they get kicked out of the Championship race because Dennis Dixon went out early and they had to bring in Ryan Leaf's brother. It's almost comical at that point, like bringing in Vinny Testaverde or Eric Gagne.

Has there been better sports comedy this year than Ryan Leaf standing on the sidelines of the Oregon game. My friends and I couldn't stop laughing everytime the camera zoomed in on him staring out onto the field. I'm sure he was just happy to have an interviewer ask him questions without bringing up the fact that he's the poster boy for NFL Draft Busts. High comedy all the way around.

[Gr0infro]

Has there been better sports comedy this year than Ryan Leaf standing on the sidelines of the Oregon game. My friends and I couldn't stop laughing everytime the camera zoomed in on him staring out onto the field. I'm sure he was just happy to have an interviewer ask him questions without bringing up the fact that he's the poster boy for NFL Draft Busts. High comedy all the way around.

Well, at least everyone knows both leafs are failures. Brady Leaf is about the worst thing that could happen to Oregon football. I never want to play Arizona again. 2 years ago, kellen clemens broke his knee right as he was getting into the heisman race, last year they injured dixon and again this year. those bastards.

[getbusy1242]

This is the way I look at it. If Mizzou wins out they are at least number 2 they play Kansas and Oklahoma(most likely). And yes Mizzou can beat OK if anyone saw the first game they almost won if Pig Brown would have caught the damn int that hit him in the hands. Not taking anything away from OK but that game wasn't a blow out and it could make for awesome conference championship game. LSU is probably gonna stay on top. Kansas is overrated they didn't play OK or TX this year instead they play Southeastern Louisiana, Central Michigan, Toledo, and Florida International wow some tough teams there. IDK i wish i could see the future, but atleast this has been an amazing messed up season. Who saw Mizzou v Kansas as one of the deciding games of the year?

[Tibbs]

yea michigan only has 3, that is my fault. anyways, missouri will get jumped. why? nobody knows. but since oregon lost, (roflcopter) we will be 4, after beating poor Kansas State. and then WVU will beat some high school and jump to 3. BUT LSU can so lose in the long/short run so don't count out our title shot! especially since we play a top teams in Kansas. because we are going to go pwnasaurus rex on them.

Dude, Kansas State isnt much better then Cincinnati.. That isnt kool lol.. But I don't think West Virginia well jump them that easy lol..

[1138]

Who saw Mizzou v Kansas as one of the deciding games of the year?
Not me, but I certainly did see Texas Tech giving Oklahoma the smackdown, just like I saw the Jets back-handing the Patriots at Foxboro (regular season) last year. Dolphins over Pats. Believe it.

I'm actually not kidding about that.

Also, I may not look like such an idiot for having faith in West Virginia anymore. The Big 12 is basically going to commit group suicide here, what with Oklahoma losing, Kansas moving up to number two and thus guaranteeing a loss, and then Missouri in line to lose after that. I'm not so sold that LSU is that great, so I'm not really sure if a Big 12 team can't play in the National Championship game. I don't think Arkansas has the stuff to beat LSU, but if Kentucky beats Tennessee and LSU plays Georgia for the SEC Title game, I really can't see Georgia losing. If all the cards fall right we really could see something like a WVU-Ohio State or a WVU-Arizona State Championship game. Which would be totally awesome.

[Bodangles]

all the cards fall right we really could see something like a WVU-Ohio State or a WVU-Arizona State Championship game. Which would be totally awesome.

Ohio State?? are you kidding me? why in the hell should they be rewarded. if and when missouri beats kansas then pulls an OT thriller against OK (i think we still play them, not sure though), we will be in the BCS Title game. once again, OSU lost to illinois. we beat illinois. we win. and i can't believe all my hypothetical situtations are coming true!11!1! mizzou should be 3! woot woottttt!1111!01001!!!

[1138]

Ohio State?? are you kidding me? why in the hell should they be rewarded. if and when missouri beats kansas then pulls an OT thriller against OK (i think we still play them, not sure though), we will be in the BCS Title game. once again, OSU lost to illinois. we beat illinois. we win. and i can't believe all my hypothetical situtations are coming true!11!1! mizzou should be 3! woot woottttt!1111!01001!!!
Well, yeah, but well... there's no easy way to say this, so I'm just going to pour it out: Oklahoma took you to the curb and repeatedly raped you, at which point they told you to "bite the curb," which you did, only to have them stomp on your heads and then skull-fuck you until you used up your dying breaths of air. And the same thing is going to happen again in the Big 12 Championship game. Please don't report me; you know that's exactly how it happened. Illinois really was always on the cusp of being ranked the whole season; they're not Appalachian State or Stanford or anything. LSU lost to what is turning out to be a very mediocre Kentucky team with a very overrated quarterback, but because they lost early and Ohio State lost late LSU gets to play in the National Championship game. It really isn't fair. Ohio State held a Michigan team with two-gimme first rounders (Mike Hart and Jake Long) and a quarterback who will be drafted in the later rounds at some point (Chad Henne) to under 100 yards of offense. LSU showed that they need other teams to make the mistake for them in order to succeed. I know games between Ole Miss and LSU are usually close, but if LSU is the best team in the nation they play a hell of a lot better than they did today. They're great defense really has a lot of holes in it, and their quarterback just isn't a leader. I don't care what anyone else says. You put Perriloux in, they'll still be okay. You take Dennis Dixon out, everything falls apart.

[Bodangles]

ha.ha. OK did not take us to the curb and you obviously did not see the game. it was a 3 point game until the final couple minutes. and as getbusy said, Pig catches the pick we win. not to mention we beat Texas Tech as well ;)

[1138]

ha.ha. OK did not take us to the curb and you obviously did not see the game. it was a 3 point game until the final couple minutes. and as getbusy said, Pig catches the pick we win. not to mention we beat Texas Tech as well ;)
It is what is. I call 'em as I see 'em, and I'm usually fairly accurate. Although I really punched the munchkin this year with USC. Yeah, they could probably fill a hospital floor with all the injuries they've had, but there was no reason for them to lose any games ever. I still think they're the most talented team in college football, save for John David Booty, who thankfully will never make it to the pros. I think a lot of it was just bad coaching. Carroll really couldn't motivate them enough to be the team they should be, which is a bigger factor than most people realize. Despite not grasping the fundamentals of football Herm Edwards is usually involved in the playoff picture because he's a good motivator. He can't tell time, but he's a good motivator. I think the Nebraska game was a taste of what USC is, but even then I think they held back. They simply looked flat in every game I've seen them play. It's almost like they're scared or something, like when Roger Federer doesn't completely demoralize a low-ranked opponent.

[Tibbs]

What you guys think about my boys skipping over Missouri??

[Bodangles]

fucking ridiculous. either way, when we beat kansas we will jump you and take our rightful place. who in the hell did WVU beat anyway?

[Tibbs]

Lol we beat Cincinnati. They was rank around 22-23 lol But who cares, my team is 3rd for a week.. :) I hope you guy do beat Kansas so Oklahoma can upset your Missiouri. So we can move on up 2nd, where we belong :D

[Bodangles]

we will beat kansas, by 49. then we will beat OK by 3 at the last second. and you guys will lose to whatever high school you are playing.

[Fonkey Monkey]

man its amazing how suddenly everyone is a mizzou fan.
people sicken me.

[Tibbs]

Why do you got to go to High School.. I believe we play harder team them little Missiouri

[Bodangles]

fonkey i know you are not talking about me...:eek::confused::)

and i do believe WVU gets much better recruits plus the not so smart jocks from high school. 2.0 acceptance GPA? ha.

[Tibbs]

Wow, achievementsmaster them are so big word bud lol.. I think fonkey is talking about you.. you from Va not Missiouri like him... LOL many of my friends when they first meet them call me jumping the fan bus with west Virginia then they learn, I was born in WVA and my room is nothing but WVA LOL.. What is Missiouri GPA around 1.8 enough to pass High School?

[Bodangles]

i live in VA. i was born in St. Louis, raised in St. Louis, went to a goddamn Catholic school for 6 years in st. louis. then my dad ruined my life and moved us here. ahh lets get personal.

6 PGA National Ct.
O'Fallon, MO 63366

anyways, MU happens to have a 3.7 acceptance rate so eat it! and believe me, we will be number 2. what conference is WVU in?

[Tibbs]

Big East!! After our talk about the GPA and I really never look into it.. and I got on google and I found that West Virginia:
Athletic Director’s Academic Honor Roll
Implemented in 1989 by current athletic director Ed Pastilong, the Athletic Director's Academic Honor Roll was initiated to honor deserving WVU student-athletes who achieve a 3.0 or better grade-point average each semester. In addition to the honor roll, a 4.0 club and a team award for the highest GPA were instituted. In 2005-06, more than 50 student-athletes earned a 4.0 GPA, including Jay Henry, Kash Kiefer and Reed Williams (http://www.msnsportsnet.com/profile.cfm?id=101047).
Since the program began, more than 3,000 Mountaineers have been honored, including a record 274 during the spring semester, 2001. The average total of student-athletes earning Athletic Director’s Academic Honor Roll is recognition is 150.

[Bodangles]

who is in that conference worth playing? last i checked we have 4 in the top 15 (big 12):woop:

[Tibbs]

Western Michigan, Marshall, Maryland, East Carolina, South Floria, Syracuse, Mississippi State, Rutgers, Louisville, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Pittsburgh.

And Missouri only play teams in top 20-25, who did you guys play in the top 15? Cause in 2006 they was only two team rank, and they was 19 Oklahoma(26-10) and 21 Oregon State(39-38) and which they lost in both games... This year Missouri only play top ranks teams, and that cause Oklahoma was rank last year and Kansas is 10-0, and West Virginia is 3-1 in the last 4 years in an BC Bowl, I guess that what you call them..

[Bodangles]

so Rutgers, UConn, and Cincinatti? whoop our ass in basketball and that is about it...;). MU FTW!

ahh yes but THIS year we pwn3d:
a.)Texas Tech who beat...Oklahoma
b.)Illinois who beat...Ohio State
c.)Texas A&M..number 25
d.)NEBRASKA! whoa!
e.)OK, on whom we will redeem ourselves in 2 weeks!
f.)Kansas!


and i am now officially done saying who missouri has beaten and will beat. just got to let it play out.

[Tibbs]

well, they was more teams rank in the Big East then they was in the Big 12 in preseason this season lol

[Fonkey Monkey]

fonkey i know you are not talking about me...:eek::confused::)

and i do believe WVU gets much better recruits plus the not so smart jocks from high school. 2.0 acceptance GPA? ha.

i wasnt talking about you, i was talking about everyone. its crazy to me how everyone has become 'huge' MU fans when they werent a few weeks ago.

i would lol at the dumbass jocks but my gpa is even above 1.5

[Gr0infro]

The only reason i like mizzou now is because my ducks are out of it, i don't like OU, KU or LSU. WVU is a good team, very good really. I just like Missouri as a team i guess. don't know why.

[Bodangles]

well fro you were (are) a ducks fan. no problem in cheering for a team. now saying that you have always been an MU Fan is :eek:. fonkey's right. those damn frontrunners! anyways, if you have seen the commercial, no questioning of the fanhood!

[1138]

fonkey i know you are not talking about me...:eek::confused::)

and i do believe WVU gets much better recruits plus the not so smart jocks from high school. 2.0 acceptance GPA? ha.
Yeah, but it's not exactly like when USC beats Stanford (except for this year) and the Stanford kids not named John Elway can go "Yeah, they beat us, but at least I went to Stanford."

[Bodangles]

i didnt quite understand that, but i did kinda, i think. but then again you have georgetown which is like at 4.2 and they have a sick Basketball team

[1138]

i didnt quite understand that, but i did kinda, i think. but then again you have georgetown which is like at 4.2 and they have a sick Basketball team
What the fuck is a 4.2? I know Roy Hibbert couldn't get above 100 in a shoe-tying class, so we've got a problem.

[Tibbs]

What are you two talking about now?? College gpa?

[1138]

What are you two talking about now?? College gpa?
I don't think so, but that's what it looks like. There's no way Georgetown requires a 4.2. It's still a great college but it's clearly a step down from, say, Yale.

[Tibbs]

yea I couldnt see gtown needing an 4.2

[Bodangles]

there are no spelled out gpa's to apply or get accepted, 4.1-4.2 is what most georgetown students entered with. i'm not taking shots at ivy league though ;).

[1138]

there are no spelled out gpa's to apply or get accepted, 4.1-4.2 is what most georgetown students entered with. i'm not taking shots at ivy league though ;).
Look, a 4.1 or a 4.2, if it exists at all, would be above a 100 average in all classes. I guarantee you that Georgetown does not require that when U Penn is only looking for a 97+ on their scale.

[Tibbs]

If any college needs an 4.1 or 4.2 average they wouldn't have any basketball teams, cause they all would be nerds : )

[Bodangles]

a 4.3 is an A+. a 4.0 is an A. AP Courses weight your GPA .7 at the end of the year (.35 at the semester). so really we just have different scales. nonetheless, Tibbs, don't stereotype about nerds being bad at sports. i have a 4.25 and represent team usa for hockey. also, i am a dignified nerd. anyways, MO is gonna kick some jayhawk @$$$

[Tibbs]

Well, I wasn't really trying to.. I keep around an 3.5 in high school and I still play sports... So nerd can do both..

[Bodangles]

good :). sorry i just hate the old smart kids can't play sports generalization. it is complete bulllsheeit. who is WVU playing for the conference championship?

[1138]

a 4.3 is an A+. a 4.0 is an A. AP Courses weight your GPA .7 at the end of the year (.35 at the semester). so really we just have different scales. nonetheless, Tibbs, don't stereotype about nerds being bad at sports. i have a 4.25 and represent team usa for hockey. also, i am a dignified nerd. anyways, MO is gonna kick some jayhawk @$$$So I guess we've completely abandoned the 4.0 system and increased it to 5.0 so the really dumb kids don't look as bad?

Hooray, Democratic America!

[Bodangles]

nahh it just allows the people taking the college courses to be rewarded as they should. did you hear the ESPN poll that only 60% of people agreed that if mizzou wins out we should jump WVU? we have to play Kansas and OK, while WVU plays Connecticut and Pitt...need i say more? KU should be enough to jump them...

[iskoot]

nahh it just allows the people taking the college courses to be rewarded as they should. did you hear the ESPN poll that only 60% of people agreed that if mizzou wins out we should jump WVU? we have to play Kansas and OK, while WVU plays Connecticut and Pitt...need i say more? KU should be enough to jump them...
Yeah but unfortunately for you, Kansas (the #2 team) isn't playing an unranked team, so they don't have to worry about the "curse of the #2" and they'll win by 2 TDs.

[Bodangles]

Yeah but unfortunately for you, Kansas (the #2 team) isn't playing an unranked team, so they don't have to worry about the "curse of the #2" and they'll win by 2 TDs.

2 TD's? funny. mizzou is gonna blow them out of the water. i mean we are the first team above 24 they have faced...

[Tibbs]

good :). sorry i just hate the old smart kids can't play sports generalization. it is complete bulllsheeit. who is WVU playing for the conference championship?

I thinking ucon lol

[Bodangles]

hmmm if we dont jump after beating the two seed i might just hurt some mountainqueers

[Tibbs]

mountainqueers!!!!?????? wow I though we was friends : (

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

hahahahahaha, mountainqueers he says. WVU is over-rated anyway, IMO.

[Tibbs]

wow, let me guess your team is UK.. LOL

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

no..my team is UT..

[Tibbs]

they play this weekend... are you gonna?

[Bodangles]

eesh. would that be texas or tennessee? because i have a newfound hatred for tennessee as my neighbors love them. but i would absolutely love to play the longhorns in the Big 12 Championship.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

that would be the Tennessee Volunteers. I did attend that school for a little while, and college football around that place is insane, with over 110k ppl at almost every game.

[Bodangles]

ahh. well i guess i can kind of like them...i mean they're no threat to MU, right? :p

[mctennisd]

Actually it is quite possible that is Mizzou loses, they will play UTenn, in a bowl game. Based on how in conference rankings work, the teams that go to the championship game are automatically denoted 1 and 2 for conference bowls. Then third place. So, if Mizzou loses to Kansas they become number 3.

But then again Mizzou isnt going to lose to kansas. They are going to beat them and lose to Oklahoma...and with wvu losing to uconn this weekend.. Ohio State will be able to go to the natl championship and get thier ass whooped by lsu.

[Bodangles]

if OSU goes to the nat'l championship, i will eat children.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

if osu goes to the nat'l championship after letting juice williams run wild on them...i'll end up killing myself.

[Barrthnine]

Now that LSU has lost to Arkansas, how long until Les Miles is accepts a coaching job at Michigan?

[Bodangles]

NUMBER 1 goes DOWN. next number one shall be MizzoU.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

i'm sorry, you guys can hate on me, but i don't see kansas getting beat. mizzou is a great team and deserves to be in the nat'l championship, but i don't see kansas gettin' beat.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

wow, what a game. UTenn finally pulled it out in the 4th overtime. on to the sec championship now i guess.

[ClutchPapi34]

I live in Columbus, Ohio. I am a huge Ohio State Buckeye fan and go to all of their games. If Oklahoma beats the winner of Kansas vs Missouri, Ohio State will play West Virginia in the National Championship game.

[ClutchPapi34]

if OSU goes to the nat'l championship, i will eat children.

if osu goes to the nat'l championship after letting juice williams run wild on them...i'll end up killing myself.

Don't be hatin' on my Buckeyes. They have one loss just like everyone else except for Kansas and Hawaii. Neither of them played anyone, and Ohio State's loss to Illinois wasn't that bad. Illinois is a top 20 team and Jui.ce is a beast. Ohio State deserves it just as much as anyone

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

i'm not saying ohio state isn't good, don't get me wrong, they've beat every team in ohio, including a few high school teams. and James Laurenitis(sp?) is a mean mofo.

[Tibbs]

nothing about missiour being rank #1 achievementsmaster?

[wgpfly]

Heres the better question do we want OSU to blow another championship like they did last year to Florida

[Tibbs]

You think the well skip west Virginia?

[1138]

WVU vs. Ohio State. Believe.

I'm proud that I could have very realistically picked the national champion before the season started (WVU). And just to clear things up, I never have actually been there, nor do I plan to do so, ever, but I've had this team picked to win this year since the beginning of last year. I just figured they'd play USC. Now they might actually win.

[Tibbs]

I choose WV also.. On my myspace Headline " I have it as West Viriniga 08 National Champions" : ) now my dreams are coming so what true.. Just got to wait one more weeks to see if it got a chace of happening :)

[ClutchPapi34]

Why does everybody out there hate on the Buckeyes? That had a bad game last year. Get over it. Every team chokes every once in a while. Look at USC; Everyone always talks about how great they are and they normaly lose to 1 bad team each year. Florida had a great team last year. Give them credit instead of downgrading Ohio State.

[Bodangles]

'Nuff said.

[Crusher524]

What a day in college football!!! The Curse of the #2 strikes again, with my Pitt Panthers defeating the dreaded WVU Mountaineers!!! Hail to PITT, the campus is going crazy right now. Then #1 Mizzou loses, so the question remains:

Who is playing in the title game???

Hawaii better be if they win tonight.

[1138]

Oh my God. I feel absolutely horrible. I haven't felt this bad about sports since the Yankees lost game seven of the World Series when the whole city needed them to. I feel just awful. I don't even know what to do. I'm so depressed about this. This was my team for the whole season and they flat out just let me down. I don't even know what to do. Oh my God.

Jesus. I hope they just cancel the BCS this year. I can't take it. If WVU dropped the first two and ran the table they'd be a shoe-in, but because their god damn kicker can't do anything right and because of an injury they're fed to the wolves. This is just terrible. And now Hawaii is losing. I can't even explain this. They should just have Ohio State and USC play and cancel all the other games.

[xxBEASTMOBILExx]

It's most likely gonna be Ohio State verus Georgia i think. Hawii wont be able to get in cuz the teams they faced. USC wont get in either cuz they faced UCLA, no big threat, even if they beat Cal who were #2. the Sooners are contenders, but idk since they dug themselves to #9. wont be BC, Virgina Tech are contenders to be the 2 spot, but it's most likely gonna be

-#1 Ohio State vs. #2 Georgia in da BCS Championship

[Crusher524]

I disagree Beast, while I think Ohio State will get in the Title game, I can't see Georgia being in it when they didn't even win their conference, same goes for Kansas. Hawaii is out of it as they are getting blown out by Washington. I wouldn't mind seeing VTech in it, would be a great story. But that leads to when LSU blew out VT, so OSU yes, other team ???

Only solution: Playoff system

[Bodangles]

i will kill the world. you guys fail to mention that Mizzou porbably* won't be in a bowl game. From 1 to none? that's bullshit. flat out. plus i am extremely pissed how teams get to skate by without a conference championship. fuck that. either all of them do it or none of them do it. and to all of you fans who saw the MU/OK game, have you ever seen more goddamn personal fouls called? we had some refs who liked to blow. whistles. i counted 6 or 7. anyways, i hope it's LSU/OSU. that'll be one hell of a game.

[ClutchPapi34]

My Buckeyes are in!!! Thanks for losing West Virginia and Missouri. I think it will be Ohio State vs. LSU. There is no way Georgia would go ahead of LSU. Georgia didn't even win their half of the SEC, Tennessee did. Also, LSU won the SEC. OSU vs LSU match up very well against each other and would be a great game. Go Bucks!

[Bodangles]

thanks for losing? you're gonna tell me that a number 1, who lost to number 9, should fall thirteen places and not get a fucking bid? i mean ILLINOIS? WHAT THE FUCK? we beat them. KANSAS. beat them. that is bullshit. kansas had a 109 strength of schedule and mizzou a 26, plus we beat them head-to-head (and yes im re-iterating from the BCS show). complete and utter bullshit. if USC or OSU or LSU lost to Oklahoma you can be damn sure they are in. and WVU is still in a bowl game? they lost to Pitt. we had a stronger schedule than them. but hey they should be in a bowl game. fuck the BCS.

[Crusher524]

WVU was the Big East champs, the only thing they had on the line last night was the National Title game, they were locked into a BCS game. I agree with you though that it is BS that Kansas got a BCS game over Mizzou though. The BCS fails again though, how do you not give the only undefeated team a shot at the National Title, if they beat Georgia they better have a damn good shot at co-champs.

[Bodangles]

ha. ha. not :whs. well most of it. mizzou got screwed. sure, undefeated is sweet, good for you. but have you seen their schedule? it's a kansas schedule. they played nobody. when kansas played somebody good, they lost. strength of schedule has to be factored in to the title game. but not WHEN you lose. that is so retarded. it should be quality of the loss, not the time that you lost. mizzou loses to OK twice, who i think should be in the BCS title game. OSU lost to Illinois who should definitelydefinitelydefinitelydefinitelydefinitely definitelydefinitelydefinitely not be in the BCS bowls. i mean 3 losses! then LSU loses to Arkansas, another unranked. the cycle continues. to wrap up this unholy night, either ALL teams play a conference championship, or NO teams play a conference championship. i want somebody to try and convince me that it is fair.

[Barrthnine]

Your biggest enemy right now is the fact that the damn Rose Bowl guys have a huge hard-on for the Big Ten vs Pac Ten match up. Mizzou is much more deserving of a BSC bid than Illinois, but Illinois is the highest ranked Big Ten team, so the Rose Bowl snapped them up. It'll be interesting to see how they hold up. It sure isn't fair, but that's pretty standard for college football these days.

[n1n3t33nd3lta]

and the bcs can suck one.

[Thrak360]

Your biggest enemy right now is the fact that the damn Rose Bowl guys have a huge hard-on for the Big Ten vs Pac Ten match up. Mizzou is much more deserving of a BSC bid than Illinois, but Illinois is the highest ranked Big Ten team, so the Rose Bowl snapped them up. It'll be interesting to see how they hold up. It sure isn't fair, but that's pretty standard for college football these days.
I don't think you can blame Illinois for Mizzou's BCS snub. It wouldn't be possible for Mizzou to get a BCS bid in place of Illinois. I believe a single conference can not have more than two teams represented in the BCS bowls, so it was the inexplicable inclusion of Kansas in the BCS bowls that bumped out Mizzou.

Makes no sense to me at all. Missouri beats Kansas head to head. Missouri's only losses were to Oklahoma. Missouri had a MUCH harder schedule than Kansas. Missouri deserved a BCS bowl bid, imo.

[Barrthnine]

I didn't know that there was a limit on the number of teams a conference could field in BCS games. I guess it sort of makes sense, but its not very fair. Then again, that sums up the BSC in a nutshell right now anyway.

[Thrak360]

I didn't know that there was a limit on the number of teams a conference could field in BCS games. I guess it sort of makes sense, but its not very fair. Then again, that sums up the BSC in a nutshell right now anyway.
Yeah there's a limit, and plenty of other rules to determine who goes to the BCS bowl games. This is how it works out, to the best of my knowledge, in how 10 schools are selected to participate in the 5 BCS bowls.

- The top two ranked teams in the BCS poll play in the National Championship game - that turned out to be Ohio St and LSU.
- The conference champions from the six major conferences get automatic BCS bowl bids. These conference champs are West Virginia, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, USC, Ohio St, LSU. Obviously Ohio St and LSU already qualified for the National Championship game, so at this point we have 6 of the 10 teams predetemined.
- If a "second tier" conference has a team that finishes high enough, they can qualify. Hawaii from the WAC qualifies as a BCS team in this instance.
- So right now we have 7 of the 10 teams determined, and there is no flexibility with these 7 teams, they are part of the BCS automatically.
- The remaining 3 teams selected this year are "at large" teams. The pool to select teams from is the top 14 in the BCS poll. So we have these teams to choose from: Georgia, Florida, Arizona State, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Boston College.
- 5th ranked BCS poll team Georgia is given an at-large bid. The two team per conference rule makes Florida, ranked 12, ineligible.
- 8th ranked Kansas is selected by the Orange Bowl committee, over 6th ranked Missouri. Thus, the two team limit per conference locks Missouri out of any other BCS bowl game.
- At that point, 9 of the 10 BCS teams are in place. The final spot is a choice between Arizona State (#11), Illinois (#13), and Boston College (#14). Obviously Rose Bowl selected Illinois, keeps the tradition.

[Barrthnine]

That is absolutely fascinating. So, Hawaii isn't considered an at-large team? Since they aren't from a BCS conference, they get an automatic bid if they finish with a high enough ranking in the final poll? Thanks for laying that all out there. I never knew that there was that kind of formula behind everything. I just assumed that after the six automatic bids went out, the bowl committees filled in the remaining spots as they saw fit, based on tv ratings, how well the fans travelled, etc. I suppose I should've guess that nothing would be that simple where the BCS was involved.

[Thrak360]

That is absolutely fascinating. So, Hawaii isn't considered an at-large team? Since they aren't from a BCS conference, they get an automatic bid if they finish with a high enough ranking in the final poll? Thanks for laying that all out there. I never knew that there was that kind of formula behind everything. I just assumed that after the six automatic bids went out, the bowl committees filled in the remaining spots as they saw fit, based on tv ratings, how well the fans travelled, etc. I suppose I should've guess that nothing would be that simple where the BCS was involved.
lol, nothing's simple. Here's where I was reading BCS policies. You can double-check my interpretation, if you'd like. Reading stuff like this can make my head hurt, lol.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

And don't forget that certain bowls are automatically assigned conference champs. If their "assigned" team plays in the title game (like LSU and Ohio St), those bowls select replacement teams. So this is the order in which things happened this year.

- BCS Title Game gets LSU and Ohio St
- Rose Bowl automatically gets Pac 10 champ USC. They also get Big 10 champ - Ohio St (#1) vacated that position for title game, Rose Bowl selects Illinois (at large team) as replacement.
- Sugar Bowl gets SEC champ - LSU (#2) vacated that spot to play in title game, so they chose Georgia (at large team) as a replacement.
- Orange Bowl automatically gets ACC champ Va Tech.
- Fiesta Bowl automatically gets Big 12 champ Oklahoma

That takes care of the obligatory bowl assignments. After that, there is a predetermined order each year, for bowl committees to set the match-ups.

- Orange Bowl gets to pick first, they chose Kansas (at large team) to play Va Tech.
- Fiesta Bowl selects second. They chose West Virginia as an opponent for Oklahoma. WV was Big East champion, but their conference is not tied into a specific bowl game. It seems that Fiesta Bowl had to choose either hawaii or WV, both those teams were automatic qualifiers.
- Sugar Bowl selects third/last. They chose Hawaii. And I don't think they had an option, they had to select an automatic qualifier, not an at large team.

[Barrthnine]

Whoa. Not to open another can of worms, but I wonder how they decide which bowl gets to choose first. I'm guessing that its probably a rotation. Whoever chose first last year, chooses last this year. Nothing's ever simple with the BCS.

[Shaaady Souljah]

all i know is when it was crunch time at the end of the season, oklahoma beat the #1 team...TWICE. (LSU and Mizzou) if that does not show they belong in the championship, i do not know what does.

and on a side note... Go Gophers! :p i think we are in the toilet bowl... ;)

[Thrak360]

Whoa. Not to open another can of worms, but I wonder how they decide which bowl gets to choose first. I'm guessing that its probably a rotation. Whoever chose first last year, chooses last this year. Nothing's ever simple with the BCS.
Yeah, the link I posted listed this as the order of selection, for a number of years, it does indeed rotate in some manner.

January 2007 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
January 2008 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar
January 2009 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2010 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar

[1138]

all i know is when it was crunch time at the end of the season, oklahoma beat the #1 team...TWICE. (LSU and Mizzou) if that does not show they belong in the championship, i do not know what does.

and on a side note... Go Gophers! :p i think we are in the toilet bowl... ;) Actually Arkansas beat LSU.

I don't know why everyone thinks LSU has any business being in the National Championship game. They lost to a very mediocre Kentucky team and to a run-only Arkansas team, at home, when it was all on the line. They've played pretty downright awfully the past few weeks. Tennessee isn't really a great victory, either, considering their losses. LSU's only victory was against a Virginia Tech team that (then) couldn't tell you which end zone the ball had to go in for them to score. It doesn't matter that they're ranked number three now; they shouldn't have even been ranked number thirty then. They had no consistency in the passing game, the defense was not playing up to its potential, and they had just come off a narrow victory against East Carolina University. LSU has really only digressed. They're a few plays away from being 9-4 or 8-5. I think Virginia Tech, Georgia, and even USC would make for a much better game than Ohio State-LSU. They're all teams that have overcome slow starts to become the best teams in the nation. Yeah, the whole season is important, but if you're looking for the best game, you look for the best teams talentwise, not the teams with the best seasons.

[Krazie]

Gotta love being a Buckeye fan right now! Final game of the season, ranked #7.

Oklahoma (4) and Oregon (2) lose the same week, move up to #5.
Next week, LSU (1) and Kansas (2) lose, move up to #3.
Last week, just need either Mizzou or West Virginia to lose, both lose, and we find ourselves back at #1 without playing in the last couple weeks. Gotta love it!

I was hoping Oklahoma somehow managed to get in to the championship game with us instead of LSU. I really thought they deserved it more and have the better team. Not only that, but seeing as I'm from Youngstown, Ohio, Jim Tressel vs. Bob Stoops would be amazing! Jim Tressel, of course, coached at Youngstown State University in the 90's, winning 4 national championships. And Bob Stoops was born and raised in Youngstown, going to my High School, Cardinal Mooney, which went to its 4th straight State Championship game this weekend, but lost by one point due to a blocked extra point that prevented overtime!

Two Youngstown boys in the National Championship would've been awesome!

[Bodangles]

wow i love the mizzou support in here, and everything that has been said is ultimately true. the fact that we were ranked higher than kansas makes it seem like so much bullsh*t i don't want to speak about it. as for LSU, OK is twice as good as them so whatever. and once again, OSU didn't have to play a conference championship game. bullsh*t. they are good but WVU was supposed to demolish pitt. look what happened.

[ClutchPapi34]

thanks for losing? you're gonna tell me that a number 1, who lost to number 9, should fall thirteen places and not get a fucking bid? i mean ILLINOIS? WHAT THE FUCK? we beat them. KANSAS. beat them. that is bullshit. kansas had a 109 strength of schedule and mizzou a 26, plus we beat them head-to-head (and yes im re-iterating from the BCS show). complete and utter bullshit. if USC or OSU or LSU lost to Oklahoma you can be damn sure they are in. and WVU is still in a bowl game? they lost to Pitt. we had a stronger schedule than them. but hey they should be in a bowl game. fuck the BCS.

Yes, Missouri should definately been ahead of Kansas. They were in the bottom 15 in strength of schedule and Missouri beat them head to head.

[Gr0infro]

I always seem to hate college football this time of year... hmm... wonder why. The BCS is killing college football for me. i actually prefer the old method of the polls over this shit. this has nothing to do with the teams but which teams playing each other are going to make the most money. so gay.