View Full Version : 10 WWE wrestlers suspended over wellness policy
shadow sniper
08-31-2007, 05:40 AM
Randy Orton * Charlie Haas * Adam Copeland (Edge) * Robert Huffman (King Booker) * Shane Helms (Gregory Helms) * Mike Bucci (Nova/Simon Dean) * Anthony Carelli (Santino Marella) * John Hennigan (John Morrison/Johnny Nitro) * Darren Matthews (William Regal) * Ken Anderson (Mr. Kennedy) * Chavo Guerrero * Dave Bautista * Shoichi Funkai * Chris Mordetzky (Chris Masters)
www.impactwrestling.com (http://www.impactwrestling.com) is where a buddy of mine found the list.Still think the wwe is clean?......more names to be release tomorrow,heres a link to that story http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=13379
Smokez
08-31-2007, 05:48 AM
Those arent comfirmed nor due to roids. Shane and Adam took medication when they broke there necks. Kennedy admitted he took roids but hasnt taken roids since Feb 06.
Yes the suspended 10 people but every list I have seen are more then 10. I think this thread should be closed or renamed due to not enough Info and just because 10 people weren't suspended due to roids its because they were people who bought medication, INCLUDING PAIN KILLERS. Signature Pharmacy in Orlando
I mean seriously have you seen Regal or Funaki?
EDIT: SI's List
Charlie Haas - Purchased drugs as late as January 2007.
Chavo Guerrero - Purchased drugs as late as May 2006.
Edge - Purchased drugs as late as February 2007.
Funaki - Purchased Somatropin in March 2006.
Gregory Helms - Purchased drugs as late as February 2007.
John Morrison - Purchased five different drugs as late as February 2007 .
Mr. Kennedy - Purchased three drugs between October 2006 and February 2007, including testosterone, which is an anabolic steroid. Kennedy sternly claimed in a recent interview entitled 'WWE Stopped My Steroid Use' that he completely stopped doing steroids as soon as the WWE Wellness Policy was implemented. You can read the interview at this link.
Randy Orton - Purchased drugs as late as February 2007.
Umaga - Purchased Somatropin as late as December 2006.
William Regal - Purchased drugs as late as November 2006.
Notice it says drugs and only mentions roids on 1. He openly admitted to it
shadow sniper
08-31-2007, 06:34 AM
Those arent comfirmed nor due to roids. Shane and Adam took medication when they broke there necks. Kennedy admitted he took roids but hasnt taken roids since Feb 06.
Yes the suspended 10 people but every list I have seen are more then 10. I think this thread should be closed or renamed due to not enough Info and just because 10 people weren't suspended due to roids its because they were people who bought medication, INCLUDING PAIN KILLERS. Signature Pharmacy in Orlando
I mean seriously have you seen Regal or Funaki?
EDIT: SI's List
Notice it says drugs and only mentions roids on 1. He openly admitted to it
ok would a mod kindly change the name of the tread from 10 wwe wrestlers suspended for stroides to 10 wwe wrestlers suspended over the wellness policy to make smokez happy thanks.
ok would a mod kindly change the name of the tread from 10 wwe wrestlers suspended for stroides to 10 wwe wrestlers suspended over the wellness policy to make smokez happy thanks.
Do I sense sarcasm or is that just paranoia?
Nick G 42390
08-31-2007, 10:19 PM
Well, they weren't suspended for roids and the investigation is still going on. And that's more than 10 people on that list and all over the web and only 10 got suspended and that was on the WWE official website. The names were leaked out and is becoming a pain in the ass for Vince and the WWE. But, as for you saying suspended for roids, that's wrong. No need to assume that because they're big and professional wrestlers i's automatically steriods. As everyone already said, Mr. Kennedy is the only one who used them and admitted it in an interview. He also said the WWE help him get over his steriods problem.
Smokez
08-31-2007, 10:25 PM
ok would a mod kindly change the name of the tread from 10 wwe wrestlers suspended for stroides to 10 wwe wrestlers suspended over the wellness policy to make smokez happy thanks.
:eek: Nice Sarcasm. If your gonna post about something like this you should atleast have the right info.
Krazie
08-31-2007, 10:30 PM
You and J-Lo take wrestling so seriously, lol.. Jumping all over people in defense of your heroes :p
Smokez
08-31-2007, 10:47 PM
No I don't take wrestling seriously I just take bashings seriously. I know its semi fake, the storylines are fake but the bumps and stuff isn't fake
PerpetualHeaven
08-31-2007, 10:56 PM
They purchased drugs which would have them suspended. For them to be suspended, they would have had to consume or bought illegitimate drugs. Yes he was wrong in saying it was strictly steroids but they were still illegitimate drugs. Who cares if they were steroids or not? It could have been coke, E, G, LSD, etc.
Smokez
08-31-2007, 11:43 PM
It can't be coke, E, LSD, G. If someone in WWE took them they would have been fired awhile ago instead of suspended. It's meds from a Pharmacy not some street lurker. And anyone who bought from this Pharmacy are on the list. I care if they are steroids or not.
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 12:11 AM
They purchased drugs which would have them suspended. For them to be suspended, they would have had to consume or bought illegitimate drugs. Yes he was wrong in saying it was strictly steroids but they were still illegitimate drugs. Who cares if they were steroids or not? It could have been coke, E, G, LSD, etc.
Ya, if it was anything like that, they would've been fired that day. Take Jeff Hardy for instance, hegot fired 3 years ago for using coke I believe? Some kinda drug like that. Now, he is back in the WWE but that's because he went through rehab and this and that and then once the WWE knew he cleaned up his act, they finally let him back in. Poor guy had to wrestle in TNA while he was out of the WWE lol.
shadow sniper
09-01-2007, 12:29 AM
No I don't take wrestling seriously I just take bashings seriously. I know its semi fake, the storylines are fake but the bumps and stuff isn't fake
the only thing real about it is the fact that alot of people die.im happy that there suspending people now just so they can have a break,but the wwe sould take like 2 weeks off and not be wresing every dam weak like you say the bumps are real and they take stuff that can kill them if taken to much.I mean they have pay-pre views on sunday and raw on monday omfg.Dont you think they sould slow down and take the money hit so people dont die all the dam time?!?!?!?!?
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 01:08 AM
That's true. But, the wrestlers know what they're getting into when they work for the WWE. They know it's a tough life and pretty much a life on the road. If they don't like it, they don't work there. They don't have to sign a contract if offered it. It's their choice and they know what they're getting into when they sign on the dotted line.
shadow sniper
09-01-2007, 01:11 AM
That's true. But, the wrestlers know what they're getting into when they work for the WWE. They know it's a tough life and pretty much a life on the road. If they don't like it, they don't work there. They don't have to sign a contract if offered it. It's their choice and they know what they're getting into when they sign on the dotted line.
still sould have 2-3 weeks off.People would do anything 4 money.Thats y I think they push them selfs so much,but the wwe sould stop it still.no?
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 01:20 AM
Well, most of the wrestlers will get 2-3 weeks off. Either they have a fake injury angle,which will get them some time off,sometimes they get injuried for real lol not a good time off though and sometimes they just aren't scheduled at shows. So, they do get some time off throughout the year. But, I'd be dissapointed to see the WWE off air all together for a few weeks. Each wrestler will get time off throughout the year, no need for the entire company to take 2-3 weeks off a year. I'd be a dissapointed fan, and I'm sure more people would also be dissapointed.
shadow sniper
09-01-2007, 01:24 AM
Well, most of the wrestlers will get 2-3 weeks off. Either they have a fake injury angle,which will get them some time off,sometimes they get injuried for real lol not a good time off though and sometimes they just aren't scheduled at shows. So, they do get some time off throughout the year. But, I'd be dissapointed to see the WWE off air all together for a few weeks. Each wrestler will get time off throughout the year, no need for the entire company to take 2-3 weeks off a year. I'd be a dissapointed fan, and I'm sure more people would also be dissapointed.
how about a 3 week off season.thats what otr was yelling about a few weeks ago
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 01:28 AM
how about a 3 week off season.thats what otr was yelling about a few weeks ago
You never know, they might do this sometime in the future. I for one, would be disappointed if they decided to do that. But you never know, that's Linda and Vince's call. We'll just have to wait and see if that ever happens.
Sanction
09-01-2007, 02:50 AM
I actually liked Orton when I was into wrestling...in 8th grade. Pathetic.
...I mean, they're just entertainers, yes what they do does take some muscle, but they don't need to be HUUUGE, Mick Foley (who is a God...went to my high school) was the man when he wrestled and he never used the stuff.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 03:21 AM
the only thing real about it is the fact that alot of people die.im happy that there suspending people now just so they can have a break,but the wwe sould take like 2 weeks off and not be wresing every dam weak like you say the bumps are real and they take stuff that can kill them if taken to much.I mean they have pay-pre views on sunday and raw on monday omfg.Dont you think they sould slow down and take the money hit so people dont die all the dam time?!?!?!?!?
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!? The only thing real about WWE is people die? The last Superstar to die during a match was Owen Hart. And he didn't even die in the match it was a malfunction in the cables. Sad moment. I really hope Johnny doesn't see this thread for your sake. The Storylines and who wins the match it fake. The wrestling and bumps, most injuries are all REAL. You must be a wrestling fan because you would know that there is 1 PPV a month. They have 3 brands of WWE. Raw, ECW, and Smackdown. Not everyone is even on the PPV so why cancel a whole week of shows because the big guys just wrestled? The Main Eventer's are used to this. John Cena has wrestled over 100 times this year. He is tip top shape and you don't see him hurt. They all have different wrestlers. So they do get time off. The Superstars are able to fly home in between shows unless they are gonna be in a house show that week. Also if you were a fan you would know of the Smackdown curse. Do you know how many active WWE wrestlers have died this year? 1. When they sign up they know what they are getting into. If WWE took breaks they would lose money
Its a shame that they take steroids and other pills,
but the fact is in wwe they need to if they want to get anywhere.
everyone knows the wwe has mostly had big muscley guys as the champs,
or the guys they give the pushes to.
Look at the smaller guys like paul london and brian kendrick not much tv time,
both talented guys but are considered to small,
yep i know theres more but im using these as examples.
Now look at the guys in the prime positions,
John cena former bodybuilder wwe champ,
khali former mr india and body builder,
johnny nitro gone from nothing to massive and ripped,
bobby lashley former marine and body builder,
So the pressure is there for them to do steroids,
the thing they are teaching get big or get buried.
Now the pain killers,
they wrestle something like 3-4 nights a week,
so any injurys they get they try to work through with the help of pain killers,
as they keep working instead of resting and healing up,
they keep working so they dont get fired or dont get paid,
this results in wrestlers taking pain killers often,
then they get addicted to them in a lot of cases.
Also wwe`s wellness program is a load of crap,
drug tests should be run by an independent company,
self policing doesnt work.
The wellness policy says
you cant take anything unless you have a perscription from a doctor,
so if a dodgy doctor says yep hes got a perscription for this,
then any trace of whatever the perscription is for isnt counted as a failure.
The wellness policy is a load of cack that covers the wwe from any drug problems.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 03:35 AM
Another reason Londrick isn't on TV much is because London is in hot water with WWE. They almost fired him twice, once for doing a move that WWE banned(I belive it was the 450) and because he basically told the world his gf (Ashley) wasn't really suspended from WWE she is in the upcoming Survivor but she covered for him. On Smackdown they were used nicely as one of the Longest Reigning Tag Champs
BackerMan
09-01-2007, 03:38 AM
Oh well, I'm not suprised. I'm pretty sure that the owner of the wwe, Vince is using setroids. Triple H should've been on the list too but he is very protect by vince mcmahon family.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 03:45 AM
Actually if you think about HHH isn't he has taken serious time off for the Quad tears. He has been huge since 2000s but isn't as big or ripped as he used too. and Vince is also alot smaller since he took them for matches against Austin.
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 04:01 AM
If anyone of you are true wrestling fans and actually watch it you'd understand the roughness of the business. I myself, am I huge fan(watching it right now. rey mysterio just returned to smackdown after months on the shelf form a serious leg injury) and understand how much they put on the line each night. Read some of the biographys and autobiographys that have been witten by wrestlers and you'll get a better picture. Regarding the riple H comment, did you not see him when he returned at summerslam and raw last week? He looks like he has lost about 50 pounds. He's much smaller than before his quad injuries. I think it's pathetic as soon as you hear illegal drugs in all sports now a days the first word outta people mouth is steriods. It's sad.
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 04:07 AM
Its a shame that they take steroids and other pills,
but the fact is in wwe they need to if they want to get anywhere.
everyone knows the wwe has mostly had big muscley guys as the champs,
or the guys they give the pushes to.
Look at the smaller guys like paul london and brian kendrick not much tv time,
both talented guys but are considered to small,
yep i know theres more but im using these as examples.
Now look at the guys in the prime positions,
John cena former bodybuilder wwe champ,
khali former mr india and body builder,
johnny nitro gone from nothing to massive and ripped,
bobby lashley former marine and body builder,
So the pressure is there for them to do steroids,
the thing they are teaching get big or get buried.
Now the pain killers,
they wrestle something like 3-4 nights a week,
so any injurys they get they try to work through with the help of pain killers,
as they keep working instead of resting and healing up,
they keep working so they dont get fired or dont get paid,
this results in wrestlers taking pain killers often,
then they get addicted to them in a lot of cases.
Also wwe`s wellness program is a load of crap,
drug tests should be run by an independent company,
self policing doesnt work.
The wellness policy says
you cant take anything unless you have a perscription from a doctor,
so if a dodgy doctor says yep hes got a perscription for this,
then any trace of whatever the perscription is for isnt counted as a failure.
The wellness policy is a load of cack that covers the wwe from any drug problems.
Um, what about mysterio? Chris Benoit? Eddie Guerrero? Edge? Shawn Michaels? All former champs and they aren't that big. I've met HBK and Edge in real life and they aren't that big at all. Nothing compared to Lashley and all them. So, size doesn't matter when it comes to the WWE. Just because they're small, doesn't mean they can't be the champ.
the only thing real about it is the fact that alot of people die.im happy that there suspending people now just so they can have a break,but the wwe sould take like 2 weeks off and not be wresing every dam weak like you say the bumps are real and they take stuff that can kill them if taken to much.I mean they have pay-pre views on sunday and raw on monday omfg.Dont you think they sould slow down and take the money hit so people dont die all the dam time?!?!?!?!?
Ugh, here we go again. Jonny, Smokez, and myself did this in the whole Benoit death thread in saying that wrestling is not fake. Jonny and I even know from experience by stepping in the ring for ourselves. Smokez is just a crazy follower and knows like 5 times more shit about wrestling than I do. :p
Another reason Londrick isn't on TV much is because London is in hot water with WWE. They almost fired him twice, once for doing a move that WWE banned(I belive it was the 450) and because he basically told the world his gf (Ashley) wasn't really suspended from WWE she is in the upcoming Survivor but she covered for him. On Smackdown they were used nicely as one of the Longest Reigning Tag Champs
Another thing that almost got him fired was that whole smiling incident when Mcmahon's limo blew up. That got Vince real mad.
Actually if you think about HHH isn't he has taken serious time off for the Quad tears. He has been huge since 2000s but isn't as big or ripped as he used too.
Yes, he's lost a lot of excess weight from the time he was off. He looks much better now.
I think it's pathetic as soon as you hear illegal drugs in all sports now a days the first word outta people mouth is steriods. It's sad.
Thank you!!! This really got me pissed off when Benoit died. I was the one to announce this to the public of x360a and the first few comments were instantly overdose of steroids. I couldn't believe that people would jump to such conclusions as to say that. Benoit was not that tall of a person and he had average muscle and it was instantly overdose of steroids. Amazing.
Um, what about mysterio? Chris Benoit? Eddie Guerrero? Edge? Shawn Michaels? All former champs and they aren't that big. I've met HBK and Edge in real life and they aren't that big at all. Nothing compared to Lashley and all them. So, size doesn't matter when it comes to the WWE. Just because they're small, doesn't mean they can't be the champ.
You are right in saying size doesn't matter in WWE. I am taller and weigh more than Rey Mysterio and I'm only 14 years old. The champion is who Vince believes should be champion or who deserves to get a push to get it. For example, Mysterio won the title because of the tragic Guerrero death. They pushed him and he had a good title storyline. Vince also wanted to prove that size indeed doesn't matter in this business and anything is possible.
You and J-Lo take wrestling so seriously, lol.. Jumping all over people in defense of your heroes :p
We don't take wrestling too seriously, we just religiously follow it. :p The stuff we are taking seriously is how people instantly jump to conclusions of steroids and being fake. That's what grinds our gears.
Example:
Fan: "*Insert Wrestler Name Here* died this morning."
Not a Fan: "Probably because of steroids."
I hate it when people do that. Just because they have a job that requires strength they have to use steroids to supply their strength? The last time an active wrestler died was Eddie Guerrero in 2005 from heart failure due to past PAINKILLER and ALCOHOL addiction. I know this, I read his biography before it even came out (got the connections, you know.) The next active wrestler to die before Guerrero was I believe Owen Hart in 2000 when he tragically fell 50 feet from the ground because he was making his entrance on a cable and it snapped. God rest his soul.
PerpetualHeaven
09-01-2007, 02:56 PM
Um, what about mysterio? Chris Benoit? Eddie Guerrero? Edge? Shawn Michaels? All former champs and they aren't that big. I've met HBK and Edge in real life and they aren't that big at all. Nothing compared to Lashley and all them. So, size doesn't matter when it comes to the WWE. Just because they're small, doesn't mean they can't be the champ.
CHRIS BENOIT?!
http://www.champsarehere.com/images/Superstars/Chris%20Benoit.jpg
Other then his traps are the size of peoples heads, I don't think he's small at all. Also, when Eddie Guerrero moved he became huge. He was much bigger. Same with Ray Mysterio. He added some significant bulk moving to the WWE. Edge is the only one that is extremely lanky that's famous but that's because of his personality.
It can't be coke, E, LSD, G. If someone in WWE took them they would have been fired awhile ago instead of suspended. It's meds from a Pharmacy not some street lurker. And anyone who bought from this Pharmacy are on the list. I care if they are steroids or not.
So you're telling me people are getting suspended for pharmaceutical drugs? If they had a prescription for it, why would they get suspended in the first place?
sln333
09-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Well most of those people are pretty big names in the company, so if something comes out of this it better not be them getting suspended for too long. Except for Simon Dean, I didn't know he is still in the WWE.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 05:21 PM
So you're telling me people are getting suspended for pharmaceutical drugs? If they had a prescription for it, why would they get suspended in the first place?
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Yes, Jeff hardy was suspended a month ago because he was on drugs again. Or rumored because of his Neck injury. The first time he was on them he got fired from WWE. He then went to TNA got off the drugs and it back with WWE. If this was for illegal drugs why isn't he on the list? Anyone who got something from this Pharmacy are on the list. Edge and Shane Helms got meds because they broke their neck and haven't been on any since. Hell Shane isn't even back in WWE and it's been over 9months.
shadow sniper
09-01-2007, 05:45 PM
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!? The only thing real about WWE is people die? The last Superstar to die during a match was Owen Hart. And he didn't even die in the match it was a malfunction in the cables. Sad moment. I really hope Johnny doesn't see this thread for your sake. The Storylines and who wins the match it fake. The wrestling and bumps, most injuries are all REAL. You must be a wrestling fan because you would know that there is 1 PPV a month. They have 3 brands of WWE. Raw, ECW, and Smackdown. Not everyone is even on the PPV so why cancel a whole week of shows because the big guys just wrestled? The Main Eventer's are used to this. John Cena has wrestled over 100 times this year. He is tip top shape and you don't see him hurt. They all have different wrestlers. So they do get time off. The Superstars are able to fly home in between shows unless they are gonna be in a house show that week. Also if you were a fan you would know of the Smackdown curse. Do you know how many active WWE wrestlers have died this year? 1. When they sign up they know what they are getting into. If WWE took breaks they would lose money
im not a wwe fan anymore because of the fact i think it sucks.I dont think theres old school wwf and ecw fans on here that will back me up,but if you were a wwf,ecw fan you would not like the "wwe"i mean it gets realy boreing like this thread.Also "i hope johnny dosent see this thread 4 your sake"LOL thats all i have to say whats he gonna do beat me up(not hateing on you johnny i dont even know who you are so dont get mad at me).
Um, what about mysterio? Chris Benoit? Eddie Guerrero? Edge? Shawn Michaels? All former champs and they aren't that big. I've met HBK and Edge in real life and they aren't that big at all. Nothing compared to Lashley and all them. So, size doesn't matter when it comes to the WWE. Just because they're small, doesn't mean they can't be the champ.
Mysterio was named as testing positive for steroids,
guerrero took them as well,
edge yup hes taken them as well,
shawn michaels maybe an exception.
If you look over wwe`s history tell me how many small guys have been pushed.
Nice to see how you missed about the pain killers,
no comment on that?
:p
I dont think theres old school wwf and ecw fans on here that will back me up,but if you were a wwf,ecw fan you would not like the "wwe"i mean it gets realy boreing like this thread.
Hello. Smokez and I are old school WWF and ECW fans. I was more of an old school ECW fan and Smokez was more of a WWF fan and would you look at that: we both religiously follow WWE. Isn't that weird?
Oh, and yes, Jonny will beat you up.
@ Flea,
Guerrero never took steroids. He only drank alcohol and took drugs (don't remember the name of the drug, but it wasn't steroids.) He died not from overdose, but from heart failure from past addictions.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 07:07 PM
im not a wwe fan anymore because of the fact i think it sucks.I dont think theres old school wwf and ecw fans on here that will back me up,but if you were a wwf,ecw fan you would not like the "wwe"i mean it gets realy boreing like this thread.Also "i hope johnny dosent see this thread 4 your sake"LOL thats all i have to say whats he gonna do beat me up(not hateing on you johnny i dont even know who you are so dont get mad at me).
LMAO, "no old school wwf and ecw fans on here? I have been watching wrestling for 15 years. Why didn't you name WCW? I really wanna know how old are you? Johnny has wrestled before for indy work and such and would get on you for your comment about it all being fake. I am not huge on ECW back then but now I am because of CM Punk.
EDIT : So because it's not the attitude ERA I can't like WWE or I am a fake?
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 07:51 PM
Yes, Jeff hardy was suspended a month ago because he was on drugs again. Or rumored because of his Neck injury. The first time he was on them he got fired from WWE. He then went to TNA got off the drugs and it back with WWE. If this was for illegal drugs why isn't he on the list? Anyone who got something from this Pharmacy are on the list. Edge and Shane Helms got meds because they broke their neck and haven't been on any since. Hell Shane isn't even back in WWE and it's been over 9months.
Actually, Jeff was gone for that month or whatever because he got hurt that week he attacked Umaga. He wasn't suspended. If you go to his official website, it was all in there.
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 07:58 PM
im not a wwe fan anymore because of the fact i think it sucks.I dont think theres old school wwf and ecw fans on here that will back me up,but if you were a wwf,ecw fan you would not like the "wwe"i mean it gets realy boreing like this thread.Also "i hope johnny dosent see this thread 4 your sake"LOL thats all i have to say whats he gonna do beat me up(not hateing on you johnny i dont even know who you are so dont get mad at me).
A far as your no old school wrestling fans on here, your wrong. I've been watching wrestling for over 10 years. I actually watched WCW first then started watching WWE. I've ben a fan for a very long time and I still am, and always will be. And I do like the WWE , nothing wrong with it. It's not like the changed their name trying to create a new image or anything. They only changed from WWF because they got sued by the World Wildlife Foundation so they had to change their name.
Smokez
09-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Actually, Jeff was gone for that month or whatever because he got hurt that week he attacked Umaga. He wasn't suspended. If you go to his official website, it was all in there.
Thats what he says. If anything it was when he botched a move in his match against Kennedy, he fell off the top rope onto his neck. But it's been told it was for drugs. If it was an injury then he wouldn't of been gone for a month especially when he is getting huge pops from the fans and a huge push. He was supposed to face Umaga at Summerslam for the IC belt but they scratched that because of it.
Thats what he says. If anything it was when he botched a move in his match against Kennedy, he fell off the top rope onto his neck. But it's been told it was for drugs. If it was an injury then he wouldn't of been gone for a month especially when he is getting huge pops from the fans and a huge push. He was supposed to face Umaga at Summerslam for the IC belt but they scratched that because of it.
He's right. WWE usually doesn't truthfully say why people are out of action, so they say it's because of injury. Just like when Carlito illegedly stabbed Cena. They used that gimmick so that Cena could film The Marine...
Nick G 42390
09-01-2007, 09:21 PM
He's right. WWE usually doesn't truthfully say why people are out of action, so they say it's because of injury. Just like when Carlito illegedly stabbed Cena. They used that gimmick so that Cena could film The Marine...
Ya I knew about that. And when Kane was supposedly injuried he was filming See No Evil. And ya, it was that match against Kennedy. Sorry, forgot it was against him not Umaga. And you could be right about that being a cover up and maybe he only need 2 weeks off but they might not of brought him back because they wanted to do it at the right time for the storyline. Who knows.
Nick G 42390
09-02-2007, 12:35 AM
I got this from ewrestlingnews.com
Partial source: Wrestling Observer
- To update you on the WWE suspension story, a press release was sent out yesterday by WWE concerning tonight's RAW show in Terre Haute, IN. The release said Umaga and Mr. Kennedy have been pulled from the show. The main matches are John Cena vs. Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy vs. Carlito and Cryme Tyme vs. Cade and Murdoch. So it looks like Randy Orton hasn't been suspended.
All of the suspended WWE superstars were flown in over the last few days for a meeting with Vince McMahon. It's believed the last suspension was a wrestler who missed his flight. At this point, the only firing has been Mike "Simon Dean" Bucci and the identity of the wrestler who has been suspended for 60 days should be revealed soon.
The release said Umaga and Mr. Kennedy have been pulled from the show.
I knew umaga was on steroids,
there was no way he got a body like that ripped and muscley from hitting the gym everyday.
:p
I knew umaga was on steroids,
there was no way he got a body like that ripped and muscley from hitting the gym everyday.
:p
I'm not sure if that was sarcasm, but if it wasn't, you call his barrel of a body and ass ripped and muscley?
Minty
09-02-2007, 02:37 AM
I'm not sure if that was sarcasm, but if it wasn't, you call his barrel of a body and ass ripped and muscley?
Compared to what Webbys described Fleas body like, Umaga is Mr Universe....
Smokez
09-02-2007, 03:52 AM
I got this from ewrestlingnews.com
Partial source: Wrestling Observer
- To update you on the WWE suspension story, a press release was sent out yesterday by WWE concerning tonight's RAW show in Terre Haute, IN. The release said Umaga and Mr. Kennedy have been pulled from the show. The main matches are John Cena vs. Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy vs. Carlito and Cryme Tyme vs. Cade and Murdoch. So it looks like Randy Orton hasn't been suspended.
All of the suspended WWE superstars were flown in over the last few days for a meeting with Vince McMahon. It's believed the last suspension was a wrestler who missed his flight. At this point, the only firing has been Mike "Simon Dean" Bucci and the identity of the wrestler who has been suspended for 60 days should be revealed soon.
If a wrestler is suspended they don't have to be taken off TV. They won't wrestle house shows and be payed. Mike wasn't doing anything for WWE except waste money. This just gave them a good reason to fire him. Randy is on his 2nd Offense and It would hurt WWE to take him off TV. His in ring and outta ring physiology is great. The match between his and Cena at Summerslam was awesome. Honestly one of Cena's best match. They have great chemistry together.
Nick G 42390
09-02-2007, 06:03 AM
If a wrestler is suspended they don't have to be taken off TV. They won't wrestle house shows and be payed. Mike wasn't doing anything for WWE except waste money. This just gave them a good reason to fire him. Randy is on his 2nd Offense and It would hurt WWE to take him off TV. His in ring and outta ring physiology is great. The match between his and Cena at Summerslam was awesome. Honestly one of Cena's best match. They have great chemistry together.
Exactly. It would hurt the WWE majorly to take Orton,Umaga or Kennedy off air and they won't. Orton and Cena's angle is saving Orton. Umaga is the IC champ. And in the McMahon bastard son storyline, according to many many wrestling insider sites they plan on having Kennedy as his bastard son. I don't see any of those 4 going off of tv.
Smokez
09-02-2007, 06:17 AM
See I actually think this Feud is helping Cena more then Orton. It's obvious Randy is carrying this feud. I hope Orton takes the strap at Unforgiven.
I thought I would add this about Jeff from earlier.
Jeff Hardy - Suspended in July 2007. He was definitely suspended, although it is unknown if it was due to failing a test. The reasons behind this suspension remain unclear. The story with the most truth seems to be that he was suspended due to behavior/maturity issues. The webmaster of his website said on Jeff's behalf that he was taking time off due to a neck injury. He may have suffered a neck injury -- he suffered a stinger in his last match (with Mr. Kennedy) before the suspension -- but that wasn't the reason he was taken off the road.
Eugene was released from WWE today.
CM Punk is the NEW ECW CHAMP!!!It's about DAMN time.
Chavo lost to Rey in an I Quit Match.
So it looks like those 2 have been written on Tv for now
deej brutal
09-02-2007, 06:30 AM
i was about to say something about the spoiler, but you beat me to it.
looks like john morrison and chavo are gonna be out for a while now, and if the reports are correct then umaga will be losing his ic title to jeff hardy this coming monday. and since batista is now in the main event for unforgiven, i doubt he will be suspended as well.
Smokez
09-02-2007, 06:32 AM
you forgot to put them on yours too lol. Because if people read yours they are gonna kno what mine said
deej brutal
09-02-2007, 06:44 AM
thanks for pointing that out, i didnt know how to put that on.
Nick G 42390
09-02-2007, 07:11 AM
Yes CM Punk won because John Morrison is gonna be suspended. I also know another supposed spoiler but don't know how to do what you guys did. So, can someone tell me or if people don't mind me saying it right on here I'll edit it and insert my spoiler.
P.S. Sad to see Eugene go. He sure was a great character.
Eugene was released from WWE today.
CM Punk is the NEW ECW CHAMP!!!It's about DAMN time.
Chavo lost to Rey in an I Quit Match.
So it looks like those 2 have been written on Tv for now
You're welcome for telling you those spoilers. :p So much crap is happening in WWE ever since this whole drug list was leaked for the public eye to see. :rolleyes:
graf1k
09-02-2007, 11:26 AM
I don't really care about this at all, but honestly anyone with a brain stem could have told you Batista is roided up. As for the rest, who gives a shit if they are suspended for roids, pain killers, or fucking heroine for that matter? It's all shit they shouldn't be doing. I mean, they aren't going to suspend a guy for taking a couple Tylenol. If they are being suspended for pain killers, chances are they are taking enough to knock out an elephant.
As for the rest, who gives a shit if they are suspended for roids, pain killers, or fucking heroine for that matter?
Who cares? I'm pretty sure the millions of WWE fans that watch wrestling every week care. How do you think a little kid would take it if he found out his hero was on drugs? It would crush him/her and break his/her heart. There's a big child fanbase for WWE and stuff like this would just completely ruin their experience in watching this program.
Smokez
09-02-2007, 05:51 PM
ESPN.com reported on Thursday that Batista was a client of the busted Signature Pharmacy firm. However, his name was never implicated in the back-breaking article by Sports Illustrated. It as appears as though that Batista has been cleared.
Masters' immediate future likely hinges on what happens to Randy Orton, who according to Sports Illustrated, bought numerous drugs over the Internet after February 2006 -- a violation of the WWE Wellness Policy. WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt noted on Friday night that only one of the eleven wrestlers suspended is a two-time WWE Wellness Policy offender. Out of the 14 WWE wrestlers listed as being clients of Signature Pharmacy, only Orton and Masters have previous Wellness Policy violations under their belt. If Orton ends up being suspended, Masters is likely in the clear. However, if Orton isn't punished and remains on television for his upcoming PPV match with John Cena, it looks like Masters is the previous offender taking the fall again.
And J Lo you told me but I went to my site to read everything.
EDIT : Nick it's okay to me if u add it in but to do the spoiler thing just do this but add numbers after the = and take out the spaces [ spoiler= ] [ /spoiler ]
I don't get why Masters' future is on Orton's shoulders. Why can't they both be suspended or both let off the hook? It makes no sense. What do they have to do with each other? :confused:
Smokez
09-02-2007, 06:29 PM
World Wrestling Entertainment's Stephanie McMahon and John Laurinaitis held a meeting with the Smackdown and ECW talent last night in Cincinnati, Ohio prior to yesterday's television tapings to discuss new changes to the WWE Wellness Policy:
*The company will begin to test for marijuana shortly. A positive will not result in a suspension but all positives will be met with a fine of, at least, $1000 per offense.
*The company will also begin testing for anti-estrogen drugs, which can be taken to offset some of the effects of steroid and HGH use. A positive for any anti-estrogen agents will result in Wellness suspensions.
*The company also announced that any new potential hires will have to undergo and pass the WWE Wellness test before they are signed to the company. Credit PWInsider The reason Masters future is on Orton's shoulders is because they both are past offenders. They ordered drugs over the internet which gave them one strike. It's been released that only 1 past offender is suspended for 60 days, only Orton and Masters are the offenders
graf1k
09-02-2007, 06:51 PM
Who cares? I'm pretty sure the millions of WWE fans that watch wrestling every week care. How do you think a little kid would take it if he found out his hero was on drugs? It would crush him/her and break his/her heart. There's a big child fanbase for WWE and stuff like this would just completely ruin their experience in watching this program.
What the fuck are you talking about? My point was 'who cares' because it seems you and Smokez were saying that if it's not roids, it's perfectly all right. My point was popping pain killers like tic-tacs is just as bad. The fuck outta here....
Smokez
09-02-2007, 07:09 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? My point was 'who cares' because it seems you and Smokez were saying that if it's not roids, it's perfectly all right. My point was popping pain killers like tic-tacs is just as bad. The fuck outta here....
When did I say it was alright?
What the fuck are you talking about? My point was 'who cares' because it seems you and Smokez were saying that if it's not roids, it's perfectly all right. My point was popping pain killers like tic-tacs is just as bad. The fuck outta here....
When did I say if it's not steroids, it's perfectly alright? The only thing that we have been arguing about is if wrestling was fake or real and people jumping to the conclusion that wrestlers automatically take steroids...
Nick G 42390
09-02-2007, 07:37 PM
Ya, Master's was suspended a while ago for roids I believe. He wasn;t on tv for quite some time but then he came back. They aren't gonna fire or suspend Orton right now. That would just kill ratings. Only way Orton will be off tv is if they do some injury angle. Who knows, maybe Cena will kick him in the side of the head like Orton's been doing but I was hoping, and could've sworn, that they were gonna have Orton win the title from Cena. I love Cena and all, but I wanna se a new champ and I like Orton so that'd be fine with me. I'd also like to see if Cena loses if they keep the whole spinner championship or if they change it back like they did when he lost the US title.
As far as my little spoiler, Jeff Hardy will be facing Umaga to kick off RAW for the IC belt and Jeff is gonna win it. Obviously Umaga is gonna get suspended. And hell yes! Jeff is gonna be the champ again!!!!!!!!:woop:
Smokez
09-02-2007, 08:28 PM
Chris Masters - Suspended in May 2006. Contrary to popular belief, he was suspended for painkillers, not steroids. He subsequently went to rehab. Masters was listed as being a client of Signature Pharmacy on Thursday night, so he could very well be facing a 60-day suspension for a second offense if he purchased drugs from the corrupt Internet firm after February 2006 when the Wellness Policy was implemented.
Yeah Jeff is Champ once again right after his suspension. Another person who got suspended is Charlie Haas. Orton is one of my fav's along with HHH and of course CM Punk. I think Orton will win the belt at Unforgiven despite this whole scandal
graf1k
09-02-2007, 09:17 PM
When did I say it was alright?
In your first point you kept harping on how it said drugs and not steroids specifically, as if one was okay and the other wasn't.
In your first point you kept harping on how it said drugs and not steroids specifically, as if one was okay and the other wasn't.
That's because people that don't follow wrestling always jump to the conclusion that wrestlers either get suspended or die just solely from steroids. That pisses Smokez and I off. We never said any drug was alright (unless it was prescribed drugs and they were used correctly.)
Nick G 42390
09-03-2007, 01:28 AM
WWE.com made the following announcement a few moments ago regarding Cryme Tyme:
Cryme Tyme released
Written: September 2, 2007
WWE has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstars Cryme Tyme (Shad Gaspard and Jayson Paul) as of September 2. We wish them both the best in all future endeavors.
Don't think this has to deal with the wellness program but thought I'd put it in here. Another great act released. What's going on with the WWE lately?
Nick G 42390
09-03-2007, 01:34 AM
Source: PWInsider.com
During the meeting before the ECW/SmackDown! tapings yesterday, Batista asked Stephanie McMahon what he could do legally about his name being included in the recent media reports, citing publicly in front of the crew that he had never received anything from the online pharmacy companies. Stephanie told him that was an issue he and his attorneys should look into, also mentioning that she was under the impression he was already doing that (which would mean a civil lawsuit seeking damages).
Batista claims that there was no connection between him and the pharmacies and he is very upset at Sports Illustrated and other media outlets for reporting his name.
Seem suspicious to you? I for one have meet Batista in person and shook his hand and have a picture with him and he's a beast and definently has taken so kinda drug to make him bigger. Also, I found something about a book he's writing. If I find it again i'll edit this and put it in here.
Hope Batista doesn't get suspended. One of my favorite wrestlers right now.
Smokez
09-03-2007, 03:08 AM
The Reason Cryme Time was Released
WWE officials made the decision to releaseCryme Tyme the RAW tapings this afternoon. There was a lot of heat on the team today at TV. Given the timing of the release, we'd say this is likely not a Wellness Policy violation. As noted earlier, there was an incident last night involving Cryme Time and WWE Tag Team champions Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch that took place on the RAW house show in Terra Haute, Indiana yesterday. The finish of their bout saw an odd countout finish although JTG had made it back to the ring, followed by Cryme Time attacking the referee of the bout and removing his belt for "auction" to the audience.
I think it's a crock of shit. The fans loved them and JTG(the small one) had the goods in the ring. Lance Cade and Murdoch suck. They shouldn't be champs but now Londrick get their push. O yeah they also had a title shot whenever they wanted that they shoulda cashed. I woulda loved to see them get released over this as Tag Champs
Bats book is gonna make him even more hated then he already is. It's gonna be about alot superstars and will rattle alot of things backstage. If your the most hated guy in the locker room why in the world would you do this? Also bats won't get suspended because at Unforgiven it's Rey vs Khali vs Batista for the Strap.
@Grafik - I never once said in my 1st post that they are alright. I was pissed that the title was Steroids and it's not even about that.
Did anyone figure out the full story on why Cryme Tyme was released?
BackerMan
09-04-2007, 02:52 AM
Did anyone figure out the full story on why Cryme Tyme was released?
Oh well I wouldn't be suprised to see them in TNA.
Smokez
09-04-2007, 03:30 AM
Did anyone figure out the full story on why Cryme Tyme was released?
There's a very interesting story behind Cryme Tyme's release from WWE. Backstage, there has been heat between Cryme Tyme and Cade & Murdoch for several weeks. During an altercation at a house show this weekend, Shad from Crime Tyme said to Trevor Murdock, "Whatever happens out there happens". This was seen as a direct threat and Murdoch addressed Shad's threat in front of the rest of the locker room.
Cade & Murdoch decided to pull a rib on Cryme Tyme involving the referee of their match that night and a major swerve. There was a spot in the match where JTG gets bumped out of the ring and gets back in right before getting counted out. The swerve was that the ref was going to count very fast at the end and disqualify Cryme Tyme - -without them knowing the real finish to the match. After it went down, Cryme Tyme was shocked -- but immediately gave the referee their finishing maneuver - took off his belt and auctioned it off in the crowd!
Although the referee was protected during the move and they stayed in character by auctioning off his belt, Cryme Tyme still performed their finisher on somebody who did not expect it or was trained to take it and were seen as the real "bad guys" of the whole situation. They were released after the show.
Nick G 42390
09-04-2007, 11:55 PM
So, after watching RAW last night I'm pretty sure they're gonna have an injury angle for Umaga while he sits out his suspension. For those who didn't see, Umaga got destroyed by Triple H's sledge hammer last night.
Smokez
09-05-2007, 04:18 AM
Dude that whole ending sequence with Kennedy had me so confused. I have never been that confused while watching WWE in my life. But it was classic. Carlitos hair was really bad and he shouldn't have cut it. CM Punk Is the ECW CHAMP. The fans absolutely love him and he is amazing.
CM Punk Is the ECW CHAMP.
The idiot ref completely blew the ending. Once Morrison hit that Split Legged Corkscrew, the ref couldn't count any slower, which pointed to the fact that Punk was going to win the Championship.
Nick G 42390
09-05-2007, 04:40 AM
Dude that whole ending sequence with Kennedy had me so confused. I have never been that confused while watching WWE in my life. But it was classic. Carlitos hair was really bad and he shouldn't have cut it. CM Punk Is the ECW CHAMP. The fans absolutely love him and he is amazing.
Ya, had me scratchin' my head also. All the wrestling news sites were saying Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son and they totally made the fans think that cuz of the way Vince always talked about him and such. But, I think it was a good ending. Will have us guessing all week. My first thought was Big Show. Not sure why but the whole things are looking up had me think:Big Show.
Smokez
09-05-2007, 04:44 AM
I am thinking Khali or Snitsky. But it can't be Big Show since it's an Active wrestler. Kennedy won money in the bank and WWE thought he was hurt worse then he was, then he openly admitted to take roids and now is getting suspended for it when he was getting yet another huge push. I like Kennedy and wish he gets a push sometime.
AOS Puck
09-05-2007, 04:49 AM
Vince's son is going to be Stone Cold. lol
Smokez
09-05-2007, 04:52 AM
Haha no they already said at SNME it wasn't him. It could be someone that is making a new movie. I think someone told me that WWE is making a new movie and it might be him. But I do know they wanna make another Marine.
EDIT: WWE is in my town on October 22nd. Im thinking about going it but only if my GF will go
AOS Puck
09-05-2007, 04:53 AM
It would also be funny if it was Coach since he is always "looking up" Vince's ass, damn brown noser. ;)
Smokez
09-05-2007, 05:02 AM
Haha I never even thought about him. Damn WWE and it's Confusion
HUGE EDIT: Ric Flair Quit WWE
Apparently, Ric Flair quit WWE earlier in the week. The possible departure doesn't have anything to do with the recent drug scandal, he's simply frustrated with his push. Also, he hasn't had any encouraging communication from management.
WWE hasn't given Flair his release. WWE officials are trying hard to get him to cool off and not quit. They are having discussions to get things sorted because WWE doesn't want him to quit the company.Y2J and HBK back to WWE... Huge News to me
With the recent suspensions and injuries of several top WWE wrestlers, the company is in need of more star power. Two names that WWE is hoping to bring back this fall are Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho. However, neither man has officially agreed to a return date.
Shawn Michaels underwent knee surgery on May 23rd and was originally expected to return by the end of summer. Those plans are currently on hold - as Shawn Michaels has informed WWE that he is in no rush to return. He is considering taking an extended break from the road and then returning at a later time with a lighter schedule. WWE is in a completely different place than it was when Michaels was injured - with the Benoit family tragedy and the Congressional investigation.
WWE continues to have interest in a Chris Jericho return. It is unclear how close the two parties are to striking a deal, but there is ongoing contact.
Both Michaels and Jericho would be tremendous assets to the company at this point. They are two of the best workers in the world. More importantly - they have "athletic" body types (not Batista or Lashley bodybuilder bodies) and live relatively "clean" lifestyles compared to the rest of the roster.
Nick G 42390
09-05-2007, 05:50 AM
I'm pretty sure it was gonna be Kennedy until the suspension and all that so they had to change the storyline.
As far as making another movie, yes the marine 2 is gonna be made.
And as far as HBK and Y2J, HBK is for sure coming back just don't know when. Jericho has been trying to for awhile and now that some big talent is getting suspended WWE is trying to get as many fan favorites in as possible. I for one can't wait to see Y2J back in the ring. He's always a funny guy when he's on the roster.
EDIT: It can't be Coach, they've already said that the kid is white and Coach isn't white lol.
EDIT2:Found this quite interesting so thought I should post it. This was put on the website on 8/23.
Source - F4Wonline.com
As previously reported the current plan is for Ken Kennedy to be revealed as Mr. McMahon's illegitimate son. If something would happen and the storyline would end up bombing, WWE has a contingency plan to fall back on. The plan would be to say that Kennedy "forged" the papers and lab results and is a con artist trying to get into a billionaire family.
The entire McMahon family will be involved in the angle with Stephanie getting involved sometime around October or November. This will then involve Triple H as he will come in and make the save revealing himself as Vince's son-in-law therefore setting the stage for the RAW main event at WrestleMania with him as a babyface vs. Kennedy, likely for the title with the entire McMahon family somehow involved.
Smokez
09-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Yeah the Kennedy thing is a bummer. I would love to see him and HHH for the strap at WM. But if they do get HBK and Y2J back I want the strap on Jericho. Raw is Jericho and it would be good for WWE to have smaller guys at the top. Jericho can do it because he has done it before and of course everyone knows HBK can. I was hoping they prolonged the whole kid thing since Kennedy is probably gonna get suspended. It's a shame, he is the future of WWE and can't get a break
Rocket
09-05-2007, 06:57 PM
Umaga=Chump who got suspended
Kennedy=Chump who is getting suspended...I hate that guy
The whole illegitamate kid angle...sheesh...this is by far the dumbest thing I have ever seen on WWE and I've been watching for a long time...Everyone immediately thought it would be Kennedy...why...Kennedy is his last name for one, being Vince's Middle name, the swagger...It was never going to be Mr. Kennedy....too obvious...Won't be Big Show, not active...Snitsky...possibly, but not likely...the whole I like to hurt people with fake yellow teeth is just dumb...Think High Flyers...London, Kendrick...possibility...Things are Looking up...Doesn't have to pertain to a persons height...i've seen people saying Hornswaggle cause his name was Little Bastard...Things are looking up....why does that have to be a stature comment?
Nick G 42390
09-05-2007, 07:41 PM
Reports have recently surfaced the internet about a possible return for Chris Jericho to World Wrestling Entertainment.
For a while now, WWE has expressed interest in bringing Chris Jericho back and has even offered him a seven-figure monetary offer for a full-time return. For the past few months the two parties have been communicating on a regular bases.
Jericho has not been involved in wrestling since 2005 and now feels that he is willing to return to the scene. A source close to Jericho says that he recognizes that his Hollywood aspirations are not going to provide a short-term monetary reward anywhere near that of WWE’s offer.
Right now, Jericho returning to the WWE hinges on whether the two parties can reach a workable arrangement. It is unknown on how long that will take.
Also, I found this, it's about TNA but has to do with the whole drug thing:
TNA has told Andrew "The Punisher" Martin that before he can return to TNA programming, he must tone down his size. TNA felt that Martin, looking the way he did, sent the wrong message to onlookers concerned with the use of drugs in the wrestling industry.
Andrew Martin is Test for those who didn't know.
EDIT:- The current plan in ECW has CM Punk holding the ECW World title until John Morrison comes back from his suspension, where he will get the belt back.
I hope that doesn't happen like that. I love CM Punk and he's a great champ.
EDIT2:Several sources have confirmed that Andrew "Test" Martin is finished with TNA.
Martin never officially signed a deal with the company and was sent home from his first TV Taping after the Hard Justice pay-per-view where he teamed with Abyss and Sting. Some say he didn't "mesh" well backstage in the locker room. Martin was released from WWE this past February after being suspended 30 days for violating the Wellness Policy.
Smokez
09-05-2007, 08:57 PM
The whole illegitamate kid angle...sheesh...this is by far the dumbest thing I have ever seen on WWE and I've been watching for a long time...Everyone immediately thought it would be Kennedy...why...Kennedy is his last name for one, being Vince's Middle name, the swagger...It was never going to be Mr. Kennedy....too obvious...Won't be Big Show, not active...Snitsky...possibly, but not likely...the whole I like to hurt people with fake yellow teeth is just dumb...Think High Flyers...London, Kendrick
I actually like this whole kid thing because its really confusing. It was gonna be Ken Kennedy (real last name Anderson) it was announced before the storyline. Before coming to WWE Vince had a talk with Kennedy and asked him to change his last name. I thought about London or Kennedy when they first announced it when they were all ring side. Vince hates london and I don't think it can be hornswaggle because it's a raw superstar and it has to be someone who they can push.
Test - Never can catch a break, I liked him with TnA. But he has severly taken roids.
Punk - If he loses the strap I will be very pissed. But its WWE and they might change the plans.
Y2J - He is one of my All-Time Favs and it would be awesome for him to return
EDIT : It is believed Jeff Hardy's recent suspension by WWE cost him about $100,000. While off the road for thirty days, Hardy missed house shows, his downside guarantee, and a Summerslam PPV payoff.
Nick G 42390
09-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Ya I liked Test also. And, I could see them making Punk lose so they could have more matches between them to help with ratings and all that.
I was gonna throw in that Jeff Hardy thing but decided not to. But ya, that's alot of money he lost and that's only in 1 month. Imagine what he makes in a year.
Smokez
09-09-2007, 06:26 PM
2 Things
1. Londrick won the tag titles in Africa but won't have them on Raw tomrrow since WWE.com hasn't updated them with the belts.
2. Booker T Quit WWE
In the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer reports that Robert Huffman (King Booker) quit WWE when he was told that he was to be suspended for 60 days, as a punishment to the Signature Pharmacy bust. He was believed to have failed a Wellness Program test before, hence the 60 days suspension instead of 30.
While WWE is still trying to negotiate Huffman's staying with them, they're going on under the impression he's done. The two sides had been having troubles recently, with a major setback being John Laurinaitis' call to go with Florida for a developmental territory - where WWE would start from scratch - instead of going with Booker's already established PWA, which WWE had been loaning wrestlers to. After they made the call to stop that, Booker went to his friends at TNA and booked them for his shows instead, which didn't sit so well with anyone backstage, but they couldn't say much having pulled WWE talent from PWA.
Booker is pretty much set financially and has wanted out of wrestling for a while. At age 42, he's accomplished a lot, and thanks to his hip hop store doing well in Houston, and his two wrestling schools up and running, there's really no need for him to stick around.
Nick G 42390
09-09-2007, 11:20 PM
2. Booker T Quit WWE
Thank god!!!!!!!!! I hated Booker T. Hated him when he was King Booker, hated him in WCW when he was with his brother and I hated him when he was Booker T.
The only thing I ever liked about him was when Stone Cold kicked his ass all over that supermarket. That was a classic moment in wrestling.
DFILL450
09-09-2007, 11:55 PM
wait wat is the wellness policy??
ocelot 212
09-10-2007, 05:46 AM
i really think this is a step in the right direction. All and any sports should come down on performance enhancing drugs. The use of them causes a break in the trust between the fans and the athletes....probably even between the athletes themselves...i know i would lose complete respect for someone on my team using drugs to enhance their game...
wild dog
09-10-2007, 06:47 AM
:omg, I didnt know all this stuff with drugs and people leaving was going on ! where do you find all this stuff ? As for Booker T leaving...thank god I hated that guy, he acted like he owned the show and talking like he was the best.
Nick G 42390
09-11-2007, 09:26 PM
Confirmed list of suspended superstars:'
- The Wrestling Observer is reporting the confirmed list of WWE suspensions include Edge, Gregory Helms, Charlie Haas, John Morrison, Kennedy, William Regal, Funaki, Umaga, Chavo Guerrero and Chris Masters.
It's still unknown if Masters received a 30 or 60 day suspension. Masters has a lot of heat on him for missing the initial meeting with Vince McMahon just days after the SummerSlam PPV, after the suspensions were first handed down. Edge and Helms who both are out with injuries, will lose 30 days of their guaranteed downside pay.
Also, full details on Booker T
Source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter
As we broke over the weekend, Robert Huffman (a/k/a King Booker) quit World Wrestling Entertainment after being informed he was going to be suspended 60 days, because he is also believed to have had a test failure to go along with being in the prosecutor's records as receiving packages of steroids. WWE hopes Booker will reconsider, but as we stated this weekend, they are moving forward under the impression that his is finished with the company.
Huffman already had a chip on his shoulder after John Laurinaitis made the call to do the Florida developmental territory, while turning down his PWA promotion in Houston. WWE had also banned their talent from participating in PWA events in Pasadena, Texas, thus causing Huffman to use TNA talent. This raised many people's eyebrows in WWE, but nothing was said.
There was also a contact issue between Huffman and WWE. For years he swore that he would never wrestle a day past 40 (he is now 42). Recently, Huffman was about to sign a new contract, but it's not clear whether it was actually signed. Huffman is said to be in strong economic shape as he's earned a lot of money from his Hip Hop clothing store in Houston, as well as a wrestling school in the city, and a wrestling school he's affiliated with in South Africa.
EDIT: Details on Eugene's firing
Source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Nick Dinsmore (a/k/a Eugene) tested positive for painkillers and apparently his prescription had expired, or he came up with no medical justification for the test result. This made the second time he had failed a test, as he was sent to rehab after failing a test just days after the death of Eddy Guerrero.
Dinsmore arrived at the September 1st SmackDown taping in Cincinnati, Ohio, was informed of his release, and was escorted out of the US Bank Arena by security. That night, before the tapings, Stephanie McMahon headed a company meeting announcing the new changes in the Wellness policy.
AOS Puck
09-11-2007, 09:50 PM
How lame can WWE continue to get with the excuses for suspensions? "Mr. Kennedy was suspended for impersonating a McMahon." Atleast with Umaga and William Regal's suspension, they played the injury angle and not make up some lame excuse. I watch every now and again, but wasn't Ashley "suspended (aka film Survivor)" for spilling water on someone?
CLAPSTER
09-11-2007, 09:51 PM
:omg, I didnt know all this stuff with drugs and people leaving was going on ! where do you find all this stuff ? As for Booker T leaving...thank god I hated that guy, he acted like he owned the show and talking like he was the best.
That was his gimmick man
CLAPSTER
09-11-2007, 09:54 PM
Randy Orton * Charlie Haas * Adam Copeland (Edge) * Robert Huffman (King Booker) * Shane Helms (Gregory Helms) * Mike Bucci (Nova/Simon Dean) * Anthony Carelli (Santino Marella) * John Hennigan (John Morrison/Johnny Nitro) * Darren Matthews (William Regal) * Ken Anderson (Mr. Kennedy) * Chavo Guerrero * Dave Bautista * Shoichi Funkai * Chris Mordetzky (Chris Masters)
www.impactwrestling.com (http://www.impactwrestling.com) is where a buddy of mine found the list.Still think the wwe is clean?......more names to be release tomorrow,heres a link to that story http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=13379
Are you 100% it's legit I saw Santino on RAW and Batista.....oh yeah "Cryme Tyme" was involved with this they got released I believe
.........check out
www.PWmania.com
I think it's a better site
AOS Puck
09-11-2007, 10:03 PM
Are you 100% it's legit I saw Santino on RAW and Batista.....oh yeah "Cryme Tyme" was involved with this they got released I believe
.........check out
www.PWmania.com (http://www.PWmania.com)
I think it's a better site
Dude, go back and read the whole topic and you'll realize that the post you quoted was wrong and also Cryme Tyme was released for other reasons, not for Wellness Violations.
Smokez
09-11-2007, 11:25 PM
Are you 100% it's legit I saw Santino on RAW and Batista.....oh yeah "Cryme Tyme" was involved with this they got released I believe
.........check out
www.PWmania.com (http://www.PWmania.com)
I think it's a better site
Yeah seriously, you don't know anything about whats going on. CT was released for totally diffrent reasons. If you would read all 3 apges you would understand everyything
EDIT : Puck - Ashley was suspened for spilling coffee on vince when he went crazy. Vince's son is just for comedy now. And they never even mention haas lol
Nick G 42390
09-13-2007, 05:15 AM
Off topic:Since The Sandman’s employment with the WWE, he has been nothing but a model employee. He would be the one to show up early, suggest ways he can help put other wrestlers over and do anything he can to help further the company. Many were shocked to see the ECW original be fired.
During the recent international tour it’s said that The Sandman may have shown up less then 100% to work. Also reports indicate that on the plane ride home he might have exchanged words with Road Agent Ricky Steamboat.
WWE also felt that the Sandman character is also considered to be distasteful with the pending Congressional Hearings.
Sad to see The Sandman go. I loved him. He was a great wrestler and showed you didn't need to be big or act a certain way to be in wrestling. He was an old, drunk lol. But, he was still a great wrestler. Very glad to see it had nothing to do with the whole wellness policy shit. Sad to see Sandman go, maybe he'll go to TNA? Sabu went there a yea or 2 ago. Never know.
EDIT: Speakin of TNAKevin Nash is pushing TNA to sign Scott Hall and bring back Sean Waltman. Nash says that Hall is back in good shape and is now clear headed. As reported last week, TNA has already sent feelers in to look at Hall and has expressed interest in Waltman.
Man, I'd love to see them back in wrestling. I always loved Nash and Hall as a tag team and Sean Waltman(that's X-Pac for those who don't know) was always good in the ring. Be nice to see both of them back. And TNA is making a push and signing lot's of former WWE and WCW wrestlers. Such as Test(even though he got fired) and Rikishi is deabuting in TNA tomorrow night. It's gonna be good to see him in the ring. Hopefully he does some dancing lol.
Nick G 42390
09-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Could Snitsky be suspended? His name wasn't on any of the list of suspended superstars but this article brings up a could point.
It's interesting to note that Snitsky hasn't appeared on a WWE show since the last Raw show before the Signature Pharmacy scandal story broke out. His last appearance in a WWE ring was on August 27 in the main event of Heat in a squash match over Super Crazy. He also did a backstage promo later in the night on Raw where he said that "pain is his pleasure." Up until the scandal story broke out, Snitsky was regularly appearing on television (usually on Heat though) and Raw brand house shows. He hasn't appeared on any shows since then. He didn't even appear at ringside last week on Raw for Vince McMahon's announcement regarding his illegitimate son.
The Raw brand was hit the hardest by the suspensions as five of the eleven suspensions were Raw wrestlers and many of them were involved in major storylines no less.
The SmackDown brand also had five suspensions, but two of them are out with injuries and another wrestler in Funaki hardly appears on television anyway. What with the depletion of the Raw roster, it seems highly peculiar that a wrestler in the midst of a push is suddenly off television as well.
It should be noted that Snitsky's name didn't come up in a single media report regarding the Signature Pharmacy drug scandal, so this could all just be a mere coincidence and the creative team just doesn't have anything for him at this time, but this is definitely something worth pondering about.
Smokez
09-21-2007, 04:53 PM
I never even noticed that just for the fact I hate him. He was horrible when he had hair and didn't look really gross. Now they try and make him into some super beast that I don't buy. I wouldn't doubt that he failed a drug test tho, thats probably why he isn't on tv.
Shinsetsu
09-25-2007, 07:41 PM
Sandman got fired? God I really hate WWE right about now. The angles are just sucking, wrestling has gotten sub-par at best. Sad to say, but I miss the Stone Cold/Rock/Jericho/Triple H times of old. Hell even god himself *Ric Flair* left? *sigh*
Tained sainity
09-25-2007, 08:59 PM
I knew that CT and Sandman were released but don't know why, and I knew Edge would he admitted it because Steroids help strengthen joints especially after neck surgery, and Kennedy obvious suspended for imporsinating a McMahon why would you get suspended for a mistake.
BackerMan
09-25-2007, 09:18 PM
some wrestlers on steroids list still wrestle in the wwe and I guess they don't give a damn. I'm pretty sure the boss is setroid user.
Nozzer
09-26-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm pretty sure the boss is setroid user.
Nah disagree there, I recon he used synthol injections to get to his size then tones round it. Although wouldnt surprise me him being on them too... :p
Smokez
09-26-2007, 04:56 PM
I just wanted to clarify for some people that Randy Orton isn't suspended. He just got married and went on his Honeymoon. So I doubt he will be on Raw next week also
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