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exsiben
01-18-2012, 09:34 PM
So I see the video on the dashboard that says check out the upcoming demo.
Do they really expect us to believe these people? The acting was worse than most infomercials! "I can say my game has gotten better with kinect" really?
I will say that ordering someone to use a power with it maybe kinda cool. Still highly doubt I will use it.

Wait wait wait, there's more. So now I can look at an item (with a prompt to push A, like always) and instead of hitting that one button, say the word instead?!?! You just blew my mind! /sarcasm Who the hell would want to do that? I get the whole using voice to avoid pausing the game but come on now saying words instead of a button does not make the game better nor more efficient. Pausing the game to issue orders is half of the gameplay, good luck running around screaming commands on insane.

RDrules
01-18-2012, 11:12 PM
nothing is better with kinect

hydrosugar
01-18-2012, 11:36 PM
There's no way the gameplay will be better with kinect than with a controller(For ME3, not in general). The only thing I can think of that justifies that statement is that more is better. If you have Kinect you get an extra 5 mins gameplay while you test it(and go back to your controller.)

fastNcurious
01-19-2012, 12:00 AM
The best part of the commerc...uh, I mean, "video" was when the guy said he was going to deliberately buy kinect just so he could play ME3. :rolleyes:

Inebriated Jedi
01-19-2012, 12:44 AM
The best part of the commerc...uh, I mean, "video" was when the guy said he was going to deliberately buy kinect just so he could play ME3. :rolleyes:

I wonder how much he was paid to say that...

Dz06lt
01-19-2012, 01:05 AM
nothing is better with kinect

This .

Tai_MT
01-19-2012, 01:15 AM
This .


I can think of ONE THING that would be better with kinect... "Adult" games, ha ha. But those are NOT released on the Xbox, and it would rather disturb me if they started to be.

Kinect in REGULAR GAMES... Well, it's kind of silly and stupid.

It should stay where it belongs... In the retarted "dance game genre" that exists.

rekikire
01-19-2012, 01:38 AM
Actually I think the kinect implementation for ordering your squadmates around, and using skills is pretty useful.

Dz06lt
01-19-2012, 01:40 AM
^someone has a dirty mind, how bout something like this

We Dare: Debut Commercial - YouTube

cjdavies
01-19-2012, 04:58 AM
I will give it a go see how it goes.

I have a Kinect and am glad they are using Kinect into these games even if it is just voice. No-one is making you buy anything, they are giving people who have a Kinect a choice/chance to use it and rightly so.

x SL4YER x
01-19-2012, 07:34 AM
so £100 to talk to kinect or just push a button errr ! i think i will just keep pushing buttons

RDrules
01-19-2012, 08:44 AM
Actually I think the kinect implementation for ordering your squadmates around, and using skills is pretty useful.

I really cant see how much use it would be, it will be slower than hot linking the commands to the Dpad for one thing but even if you ignore that combining powers will be near impossible with it because by the time you have got the second one out the first will be over, especially at lower levels

ash356
01-19-2012, 09:04 AM
'Mass Effect 3
Check out the upcoming demo'
I'll be honest, I actually felt a bit ill from this cheap marketing stunt. This wasn't a preview for the Mass effect 3 demo at all, Mass effect was just used to lure unsuspecting people in, and try and sell them kinect by repeating 'Better with kinect' every five ***king seconds.
I mean, seriously? The Kinect features don't even look that great. From what I could see, there was a somewhat long delay before the action was actually carried out.
But meh, least Microsoft have made it certifiable I will never buy a kinect. Kind of the opposite of what they were hoping, I'm sure :drunk

ghost23
01-19-2012, 10:06 AM
The Kinect integration works well for what it is intended, keeping you in the game by allowing you to control your squad without pausing the game. The rest of the stuff like opening doors is stupid.

Rivercurse
01-19-2012, 11:12 AM
The only part of this I can see myself using is saying "sniper rifle" or "shotgun" to hotswap weapons without pausing the action and bringing up the radial wheel. That's useful.

The rest of the stuff, not so much.

H0p3sfalL
01-19-2012, 11:50 AM
IMO I think it could be great.

Matt36
01-19-2012, 12:37 PM
Urgghhh! Wish games would stop adding Kinect to games :( They then add achievements related to it and I refuse to pay £100 for an add-on I hate!

x SL4YER x
01-19-2012, 02:23 PM
Urgghhh! Wish games would stop adding Kinect to games :( They then add achievements related to it and I refuse to pay £100 for an add-on I hate!
amen to that brother

madhatter1
01-19-2012, 04:04 PM
I watched it last night too. I was in disbelief, thinking "Really?? That's it? There's just voice recognition? Laaaamme."

After coming to this thread, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this.

Matt36
01-19-2012, 04:46 PM
I don't think anyone really cares for Kinect with this game.

hydrosugar
01-20-2012, 08:19 AM
I don't think anyone really cares for Kinect with this game.

I understand the market for Kinect games, but adding even optional features to games like ME3 and Forza 4 is an exercise in futility.

Matt36
01-20-2012, 09:34 AM
As long as there isn't achievements, then I'll be fine with it :p

cjdavies
01-20-2012, 12:26 PM
Urgghhh! Wish games would stop adding Kinect to games :( They then add achievements related to it and I refuse to pay £100 for an add-on I hate!

No different to Multiplayer - some don't have Gold, or even the Internet, or just hate it.

K7 Plant K7
01-20-2012, 01:10 PM
I think it looks interesting, but the novelty of being able to use voice commands would no doubt wear off after a few minutes of the thing not picking up what you're saying properly and switching to your heavy weapon instead of using Warp.

jules the great
01-20-2012, 02:14 PM
I have the Kinect and even though I doubt I will use this function during my gameplay, I find it fascinating to be at least ABLE to do it. Also I figure once Im done going thru all my normal playthroughs, getting all endings and achievements/trophies, it gives me the opportunity to try a full playthrough using only voice to see how that works out.

Matt36
01-20-2012, 03:28 PM
No different to Multiplayer - some don't have Gold, or even the Internet, or just hate it.

And I don't care for the MP either?

StyledBear
01-20-2012, 03:39 PM
for me the multiplayer achievements are worse than kinect compatibility. Hate the thought of having to comptete online for my single player story whereas voice activated command and squad orders could be kinda sweet

cjdavies
01-20-2012, 04:28 PM
As long as there isn't achievements, then I'll be fine with it :p

Could not and do not care for the MP, at all!

Chances are I'll grab this used, unless I have a spare £40 lay around. Still need to finish the first 2. I wont be playing this for the achievements, rather the story.

Don't care for multiple endings, the ending I get first time round, will be the one I'm meant to get because I play the games based on my decisions, not good or bad, or right or wrong.

Ok then....

Inebriated Jedi
01-20-2012, 09:19 PM
I understand the market for Kinect games, but adding even optional features to games like ME3 and Forza 4 is an exercise in futility.

Indeed, the one thing that really ticks me off about this is the fact that they're trying to shove this Kinect crap down our throats. In this particular case, it's just tacked on and completely pointless.

No thanks.

cjdavies
01-20-2012, 09:49 PM
They are also forcing Multiplayer on us!

Tai_MT
01-20-2012, 10:44 PM
^someone has a dirty mind, how bout something like this

We Dare: Debut Commercial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liy-hy5RPYw)


Can you see ANY OTHER use for the Kinect than something like this? Other than the silly "dancing" games that already exist? It's a $100 attachment to a console to allow you to do something already gimmicky and done-to-death long before it EVER worked right.

Anyone remember the "Eye Toy" they used to sell? Same crap, different product.

The problem isn't that the product is dumb... It's a pretty interesting product. What the Kinect can do is impressive... The problem is... It's NOT a gaming utility. Just like using a Wii-mote. The only reason you'd care about "motion control" is as a novelty. Something impressive for an hour, then makes you bored out of your mind later. Why yell at your TV when it's faster to hit a button? Why waggle a controller or your hand to do something that is more easily accomplished with two joysticks and your thumbs?

If the "voice recognition" was actually USEFUL... As in... You didn't have to say "grenade" and instead just clicked your tongue... Then it would make sense to have it. If you made other quick sounds for powers to activate them, it would make more sense. Instead, you have to say, "Jacob Lift" which takes more time than simply mapping his power to one of the buttons or the D-Pad and hitting it whenever you want it.

Hell, in Mass Effect 2, I found that simply tapping the button to change weapons multiple times could be much faster than changing weapons with the power wheel. I'd run out of ammo for my Rifle, it'd switch to my shotgun. I'd tap the "change weapon" button and it'd cycle me to the pistol. Or it'd cycle me to the pistol, and I'd tap it again and it'd cycle me to the sniper rifle.

All of that is MUCH FASTER than the "wheel" and much faster than any voice recognition software. Especially in the middle of an intense firefight.

Honestly, the ONLY reason I'd want to use the Kinect is with an "adult" kind of game. As dirty as that sounds and makes me sound... I don't want a product so I can dance in my living room. I can already do that without spending $100 to music I ACTUALLY ENJOY. What most people MIGHT shell out $100 for is "interactive porn".

Just sayin'.

Matt36
01-21-2012, 12:24 AM
They are also forcing Multiplayer on us!

Ok then...

Robobeast76
01-29-2012, 09:25 PM
The ability to dispense with the power wheel and use voice could have been done just using my headset surely? I don't have Kinect but using voice commands is interests me quite a lot.

Pausing the action to survey the battle is quite effective on Insanity though.

Veedrock
01-30-2012, 12:31 PM
The ability to dispense with the power wheel and use voice could have been done just using my headset surely? I don't have Kinect but using voice commands is interests me quite a lot.

Pausing the action to survey the battle is quite effective on Insanity though.

The only thing the headset does is transmit your voice, it can't actually "read" your voice. Or to put it simply, it can't register "Blah blah blah" as "Do this action" on its own. To make that happen they'd have to build their own voice recognition software into the game which is a lot of extra work.

Kinect on the other hand has its own recognition software included in the device, which made it an appealing choice for the feature. Without any extra work Kinect can translate that "Blah blah blah" into something the game can understand and respond to. So that's why a headset won't work and why the PS3 and PC versions won't be seeing this feature whatsoever.

hydrosugar
01-30-2012, 10:19 PM
They are also forcing Multiplayer on us!

Oh Bioware you magnificent trolls.

MASS DOMINATION
01-31-2012, 07:01 PM
This is the only possible reason why some people think Mass Effect is better with Kinect
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407959_10150643908273825_566998824_11006934_144946 6846_n.jpg

Rooie Muppet
01-31-2012, 08:46 PM
This is the only possible reason why some people think Mass Effect is better with Kinect

no point in that when you dont feel a thing, but hey why not :p

MASS DOMINATION
01-31-2012, 09:26 PM
no point in that when you dont feel a thing, but hey why not :p

I don't support it but I can't think of any other reason why people would think Kinect makes Mass Effect better.

Tai_MT
02-01-2012, 02:24 AM
I don't support it but I can't think of any other reason why people would think Kinect makes Mass Effect better.

I agree and have stated as much. Not just about ME... But about the Kinect in general, ha ha.

cjdavies
02-04-2012, 06:10 PM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=355512

How many players out there will actually use the kinect and how many will use a controller? i will just use the controller........could careless about the kinect on ME3........

I will try the Kinect to see what it's like.

Firebird06
02-04-2012, 07:37 PM
I watched it last night too. I was in disbelief, thinking "Really?? That's it? There's just voice recognition? Laaaamme."

After coming to this thread, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this.

So, you guys are saying you would rather there be motion controls for it? I'm happy that they went with what works instead of trying to shoehorn stuff in for the sake of having it.

And besides, I've gotten a kick out of the Kinect controls for Halo Anniversary. Saying what I want to have happen (say, upping the brightness, or just tossing a grenade) without going into a menu is a great idea in my mind.

With that being said, I suspect the Mass Effect 3 Kinect commands will enable the same method. Being able to tell Liara to do an ability and not have to bring up a wheel slowing the action down.

And let's not forget another posititve aspect of adding Kinect. Someone who bought the Xbox just for Kinect may now want to try out the Mass Effect e demo. Therefore, it may lead to them buying the game and becoming a gamer willing to experiment and try new things.

13ip0lar
02-05-2012, 08:26 AM
nothing is better with kinect

This .

Ditto.

I heard recently they are adding a processor to the new Kinects so they don't 'lag' as hard. From what I was told this was intended from day 1 but they shipped without them. Not surprised Microsoft was happy with Chinese sweatshop quality peripheral.

Turkdaballa6
02-05-2012, 06:25 PM
I have the kinect but how many times have I used it? Umm, only for cyber. Oh and once for Forza 4 (which was utterly fucking terrible).

However, for ME3... I will use kinect but only for one thing. Ordering squad. I wont use to examine crap as that is pure stupid. Maybe just hit A? For ordering squad though I think it will be cool and actually useful. Instead of pausing the game (unless for multiple commands at once) just say the command and bam. For example, if you are doing a little run and gunning with a shotgun between multiple enemies, you could issue a command to blow some idiots up or cast singularity and blow em away with a shotgun or just tickle their balls before blowing their brains out?

I might have too high of hopes for the gameplay with kinect and end up being disappointing but I am ok with disappointment as that is what kinect was built on... Disappointment.

Xkyojinxpandax
02-05-2012, 11:12 PM
They are also forcing Multiplayer on us!

How? The achievements for "multiplayer" can be done in solo.

OT: I like the idea to switch weapons or say throw/warp, but I predict I'll be screaming at the TV because it will do the complete opposite. I have a hard enough time while watching a movie saying "Xbox...pause" because the movies sound, it can't hear me properly.

Rivercurse
02-05-2012, 11:17 PM
How? The achievements for "multiplayer" can be done in solo.


Isn't hindsight great? The guy posted that comment way before the achievements were announced.

Cooljoe
02-06-2012, 12:10 AM
A sex game would be great for kinect. Not mass effect, though.

Rivercurse
02-06-2012, 12:27 AM
A sex game would be great for kinect. Not mass effect, though.

Mass Erect, then?

Xkyojinxpandax
02-06-2012, 05:02 AM
Isn't hindsight great? The guy posted that comment way before the achievements were announced.

Your post is not OT AND is invalid, but seeing as how cyber space is already filled with junk...

Regaurdless of the time it was posted, it's inaccurate. Not everyone has necessarily seen the achievements. I was only trying to clear things up.