Bad parenting...

[Minty]

Well after seeing the outcry over the Vegan thing, I thought I would chuck this into the mix.

This is a horrible case pf parenting. They send their child out to play in no pants, and dont even care. Its disgusting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_4Qp3V_4L4

[graf1k]

Crash was telling me about that video yesterday and it's even more funny/surreal/weird than I imagined. Then again, Crash did forget to mention the kid was going commando.

[Adam Miller]

Why would someone do that, apart from to video it and stopped just as it was getting to the good bit. *Waits for the sequel ands gets popcorn*:)

[Mace1982]

oh my god wow thats crazy, just a question does the cobra actually bite him cos you dont see its mouth open once

[BlaZiN cdn]

Those Parents are even worse than the vegan parents, they laugh when their kid is going to die from getting bit by a venomous snake, they should have their kid taken away from them (if he is still alive).

[Sweet666Kraven]

Oh dear lord. That is disgusting. My guess is that they had the snakes fangs removed. I really doubt that he would get bitten at all.

[SteelerXBox360]

Very interesting. That is one tough baby as it won the match by knocking the Cobra off and didn't back down once. My hope is that the parents and camera operator, if they are not one of the parents, find a nice tiger for themselves to play with. Is this a version of "India's Funniest Home Videos"?

[The Pants Party]

Once again, a retarded "life choice" - I believe Indian families teach their children to not be fearful of snakes for some spiritual reason or another. I imagine they do remove the fangs like someone else mentioned, but I honestly don't know. I sincerely hope so.

[angry]

Oh dear lord. That is disgusting. My guess is that they had the snakes fangs removed. I really doubt that he would get bitten at all.

Agreed, them parents do not deserve to have children. :mad:

[Minty]

Just to throw the curveball...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FJbOYza9Z0

[ThaPrototype]

I don't care if they removed the fangs, i still wouldn't want that snake around me!!! That gun video is pretty bad too. I remember seeing one with a dad showing his kid how to use an AK. Idiots!

[SteelerXBox360]

At least he put a headset on the kid to protect his ears ;)

Also, good luck to him having that kid not turn the gun on him someday...

[Worm99]

I don't think teaching a child a respect for guns at an early age is a bad thing at all. Shooting(targets) or hunting can be fun but you also need to have a respect for guns. I don't think there was anything wrong with the video at all. The kid had ear protection and his dad was holding the gun. Mom was also telling the kid that he needed to pay attention. You want to talk about bad parenting look at the parents who let their kids run around and do whatever they want till god awful times in the mornings or the ones that starve their kids. I think it's easy to point the finger at parents like these just because they are trying to teach their kid something. Granted it is a dangerous wepon and can be used in the wrong ways but don't label someone a bad person or a bad parent just because they teach their kid how to shoot.

[ThrillKillBill]

sure kids should learn "gun safety" at a earily age....... but at 3? come on! and i'm certain that snake had its fangs removed and problem had the venom sacs removed or drained so it wouldn't spit but that still seems really cruel and unnessecary. boo-rums on bad parenting

[Maka]

I'm sure its some Indian way of showing their God that they love him. Crazy people if you ask me, religion turns to somthing else once you believe that something like this makes the connection stronger...

[The 360 Dragon]

it doesnt matter if they disabled the snake, purposely letting ur kid go through that is disgusting even if it's for some ritual crap. sure some cultures go to extremes like this and they think its okay but it isnt. children can be traumatized by thinks like this at a young age. as for the gun it wasnt THAT bad but the kid (its been proven) can become violent later in life because of early expierences like this.

[invincible rob]

When I read this, I was disgusted, I can't think of a word to describe someone who would put their baby against a Cobra, but whats worse is, the Cobra has its fangs removed and its mouth wired shut, Being a snake fan I think this is disgusting, not only did they mutilate one of the world's finest animals (IMO) but they forced a baby to fight it, give me a gun and I'll kill the parents myself.
360 dragon mentioned it being part of some ritual, you're not far off, It's a snake charming festival, but that is not festive, It's just sick.

[Minty]

In India, a lot of families keep cobras as pets to catch rodents etc. The children need to learn to be comfortable around the snake and know what to do around them in order to keep in with the Indian lefestyle. Yes, us more 'civilised' nations may view it as wrong, but remember they still believe in ancient liestyles.

However, there is no need for a child to be exposed to a gun like that. It should certainly never be encouraged. How is that kid going to know the difference between a toy gun and a real gun? Its an accident waiting to happen, and hopefully its the parnets that get hurt and not the kid.

[Segnius]

http://pandachute.com/videos/baby_on_the_steering_wheel

I don't know if that was real, but if it was it's pretty bad, I mean imagine if they got in a wreck, and the airbag came out or something.

[Worm99]

In India, a lot of families keep cobras as pets to catch rodents etc. The children need to learn to be comfortable around the snake and know what to do around them in order to keep in with the Indian lefestyle. Yes, us more 'civilised' nations may view it as wrong, but remember they still believe in ancient liestyles.

However, there is no need for a child to be exposed to a gun like that. It should certainly never be encouraged. How is that kid going to know the difference between a toy gun and a real gun? Its an accident waiting to happen, and hopefully its the parnets that get hurt and not the kid.
Becuse that is something that any descent parent teaches their kid when teaching them about guns as well as keeping the guns locked away. It goes back to what one person thinks is the right way to do something may not be what you think.
@ Minty I know that we have gone rounds about this before in other threads and I don't want to make an enemy over a disscussion :D

[SarkeBeeley]

I'm with Thrillkillbill and Rob on this one. The parents in the first video were idiots and IMO pretty horrible human beings if they think it's ok to treat either the snake or their child like that.
As for the gun video, I think it's bloody awful and it makes me kind of sad that we live in a world where people think it's ok to teach their kids how to handle guns at that age.

[ThrillKillBill]

are you sure the snakes mouth was wired shut? i canm't see the detail the well but it nevber seen it open its jaw. i was so busy being upset at the childs treatment i missed that. imagine that, one thread that angers me twice.

**gets rolled newspaper**

bad thread!

[BlaZiN cdn]

Why do I get the feeling that kid with the gun is going to spend life in prison for going on a rampage?

[chris n lana]

Why do I get the feeling that kid with the gun is going to spend life in prison for going on a rampage?

:whsI agree completely

[ThrillKillBill]

Why do I get the feeling that kid with the gun is going to spend life in prison for going on a rampage?

maybe because it's been happening alot these days...........

[invincible rob]

are you sure the snakes mouth was wired shut? i canm't see the detail the well but it nevber seen it open its jaw. i was so busy being upset at the childs treatment i missed that. imagine that, one thread that angers me twice.

**gets rolled newspaper**

bad thread!
Yeah I saw it on the news, It's jaws were wired shut and just incase it's fangs were removed.
The gun video is shocking, I hope that baby shoots his parents thinking its fun, it would be their own fault.

[oVo Pandora oVo]

It's amazing how desensitized to violence we have become in this world, while I can understand cultural differences, IMO it is still wrong. My dad use to breed Boa's and Pythons I couldn't stand them as a kid personally, but to let my child get struck even if defanged is wrong, and to defang and wire shut a snake or any other reptile/animal for the sake of entertainment is wrong as well. That is their culture so all you can do is disagree with it and hope one day people will come around. As for the gun one, idiots is all I have to say, like minty said a disaster waiting to happen, I'm sure not to long from now we will see a news report about that kid mistaking that for a toy gun and killing his friends while playing, cops and robbers ( if kids even play that still ) I swear these days you should have to go through a parenting class before you can become one.

[Im a Manatee]

I'm sure its some Indian way of showing their God that they love him. Crazy people if you ask me, religion turns to somthing else once you believe that something like this makes the connection stronger...

How nearsighted you are in this post disgusts me.

[Minty]

How nearsighted you are in this post disgusts me. Why?He's right. Religion makes people do crazy things- just to impress their imaginary friend.

[Im a Manatee]

Did you read Maka's post? He commits to a stereotype that all Indians are celebrants of one religion, e.g. Hinduism. I also am very angry that you are stomping all over my beliefs.

[ThrillKillBill]

every religion has the potential to be mis-used and abused. i see your point manatee but at the same time i think your being a lil sensitive. sure it was a lousy generalization but i don't think he was meaning "every" Indian. it's easy to get offended and huff, it's harder to see the hidden meaning and bring it out more correctly.

.......... i kinda forgot where i was gonna go with this but lets all try to stay calm, cool, and friends =-)

[Minty]

Did you read Maka's post? He commits to a stereotype that all Indians are celebrants of one religion, e.g. Hinduism. I also am very angry that you are stomping all over my beliefs.

India is a Hinduistic country, in the same way that people will say that AMerica is a Christian country.

Doesnt mean anyone, just most.

Its your right to belive in God, its my right not to believe in things that dont exist. Just cos im on the other side of the fence in the religion/science debate doesnt mean im stomping your views, maybe its just me exercising my views.

[L3giOn]

I don't think teaching a child a respect for guns at an early age is a bad thing at all. Shooting(targets) or hunting can be fun but you also need to have a respect for guns. I don't think there was anything wrong with the video at all. The kid had ear protection and his dad was holding the gun. Mom was also telling the kid that he needed to pay attention. You want to talk about bad parenting look at the parents who let their kids run around and do whatever they want till god awful times in the mornings or the ones that starve their kids. I think it's easy to point the finger at parents like these just because they are trying to teach their kid something. Granted it is a dangerous wepon and can be used in the wrong ways but don't label someone a bad person or a bad parent just because they teach their kid how to shoot.

I don't care what anyone says, a toddler just isn't old enough to learn how to 'respect guns'. All this parent is teaching him is how to shoot, which is a very bad thing at that age. The dad obviously wants to share his love of guns with his kid, and that's completely understandable. I learned how to shoot and hunt when I was 12. But toddler age is just way too young.

As for that snake shit, that's disgusting. If that happened in America those parents would be in jail by now, fangs or no fangs.

[Im a Manatee]

India is a Hinduistic country, in the same way that people will say that AMerica is a Christian country.

Doesnt mean anyone, just most.

Its your right to belive in God, its my right not to believe in things that dont exist. Just cos im on the other side of the fence in the religion/science debate doesnt mean im stomping your views, maybe its just me exercising my views.

I'm sorry dear administrator, but "America" isn't a country. Yes, in the U.S, we're largely practicing Christians, but it's different that we're not one specific religion as you put it. Christianity is the belief in Christ, but to what extent your faith stretches and pulls is determined by your practice.

P.S.: The Hinduistic isn't a word. It's Hindustani.

I don't care what anyone says, a toddler just isn't old enough to learn how to 'respect guns'. All this parent is teaching him is how to shoot, which is a very bad thing at that age. The dad obviously wants to share his love of guns with his kid, and that's completely understandable. I learned how to shoot and hunt when I was 12. But toddler age is just way too young.

As for that snake shit, that's disgusting. If that happened in America those parents would be in jail by now, fangs or no fangs.

I think that the earlier you're familiarized with weapons, the better. Chances are, some kid who discovers the satisfaction in using a firearm at age 8 at the shooting range is going to react totally differently than the former.

It isn't bad parenting that makes a kid pull the gun onto an adult, it's the behavior of the parents and adults around the kid. I've been really ticked before, but i've been lucky enough to have a nice environment to live in that suits me well.

[Minty]

I'm sorry dear administrator, but "America" isn't a country. Yes, in the U.S, we're largely practicing Christians, but it's different that we're not one specific religion as you put it. Christianity is the belief in Christ, but to what extent your faith stretches and pulls is determined by your practice.

P.S.: The Hinduistic isn't a word. It's Hindustani.

Right, someones got their head lodged up their arse. Fair enough America isnt a country, its the U.S.A. Which technically means that someone cant be American, as America doesnt exist. They are therefore either a Citizen of the USA, a Yank or a Septic depending on who you talk too.

And I didnt put that you were all one religion, I said that the country would be regarded as a dominantly Christian cuntry, in the same way as India is Hindu. Doesnt mean everyone is, but overall that is the majority of people.

The fact that these people let their child do this is following their religion in the same way that some Citizens of the USA decide to follow Christinanity by donning white hoods and killing black people.

So while Hindu's may have some strange way of supporting their God, so do some Christians.

As for the weapon thing- it is bad parenting that makes a child shoot them. Its bad aprenting that the child knows how to operate a gun, where to find it, and then cant tell that it isnt a game. Its fun when he has Daddy holding it for him, why wouldnt it be fun to point it at Daddy instead? No difference in the kids eyes.

[PerpetualHeaven]

You know what, that's their culture. Why should be criticize them for what they do? I find it humourous how some of you are like, "Oh that's horrible what they did to that snake" yet you eat meat. Do you know how they treat animals that you eat? Like dirt. Way worse then that snake. Unleast that snake had the mouth wired shut and fangs taken out instead of being cramped in disease infested area with several other chickens, broken wings, etc etc. North America and Europe treat animals a lot worse. I honestly didn't think it was that bad. For a second, I thought it had fangs and what not. I'm relieved it didn't. It may teach the baby sometihng but how are they not as civilized as us? Do you know how many things they frown upon there that we do freely? What you find civilized and what we find civilized is different. I find it very arrogant and close-minded to just sit there and point fingers when we as a country (UK, Ireland, Canada, USA, etc) aren't any better. You think that's uncivilized and wrong, but who are you to judge? Please tell me, what makes you so holy and angelic? I'm sure there are many things you do that is frowned upon there which is considered uncivilized.

As for the kid holding the gun, I don't think that's okay. I think he is way too young. I think it's okay to teach a child gun safety, but at 3.. that's pushing it.

This is just my view though. I would never put my kid up against a cobra, but I'm not going to bash other cultures for things they do. I don't think it's appropriate (Spelt that wrong) and I wouldn't do either the gun or the cobra.

India is a Hinduistic country, in the same way that people will say that AMerica is a Christian country.

Doesnt mean anyone, just most.

Its your right to belive in God, its my right not to believe in things that dont exist. Just cos im on the other side of the fence in the religion/science debate doesnt mean im stomping your views, maybe its just me exercising my views.

What the hell? How do you know god doesn't exist? Any proof? If you believe in science, you should believe in impirical evidence. There is no impirical evidence that God does not exist so how are you a firm believer in science? Even though I'm muslim, the Qur'an is heavily based around science. I take both sides of the boat. If you think it isn't possible, then you know very little about Islam.

[oVo Pandora oVo]

Culturally speaking more civilazed societies see putting a baby in front of a snake and then having that snake strike him repeatedly, then towards the end the snake started wrapping it around the baby. Which fangs or no fangs that snake could potentially suffocate the child, which culture aside is morally wrong to put any child in danger for sake of a belief. Aids in Africa is a growing epidemic, and men are ignorant as to the ways of preventing aids, their culture is why aids will only continue to increase. do you know that some believe having sex with an infant will cure you of Aids, again their beliefs are morally wrong and are harming children. Any wild animal deserves to be treated with respect, and not tortured or put on display. Even if that animal was a work animal they still should be taken care of, wiring a mouth shut and defanging a snake is not respecting it or taking proper care of it. And yes animals who's sole purpose is to be be killed for food some places may not be so nice to an animal or have below standard conditions. On the same token those animals are set aside for that sole purpose, they aren't out in the wild and we don't go hunt them down and put them in a shit hole until we feel like eating them. They are bred to feed the masses, we are suppose to eat meat and not everyone may treat those animals right, but you have to separate the two. Besides if you don't like how they kill an animal so we can eat meat then, simply don't eat meat. Or eat Koesher where they are suppose to kill the animals more humane.
IMO any belief, whether is cultural or religious that puts any child in harms way is Morally wrong and just wrong all together. As far as religion is concerned everyone has the right to believe what or in whom you want to believe. Does that mean I will agree with your religion? NO. Does that mean that some take any and all kinds of relgious beliefs too far? Yes. What can science prove? Oh that Christian Bible may have a few errors, like we are more the 5-6,000 years old. I can respect anyones religion what I don't respect are the people who take their religious beliefs too far, and hurt others as a result. MY opinion is if you call yourself Christian or whatever relgion, go to church praising Jesus or whomever, then you should live your life accordingly. Not go to church on Sunday then come home right after and beat the crap out of your kids, or do things you know is wrong, then continously ask for Forgiveness seems a bit hypocritically if you ask me. My whole point is we all believe in something different, live in different environments, have experienced different things, but all that aside civilazed or uncivilazed people should put the safety of their children first and foremost, and anything that could potentially harm a child from the above mentioned is just plain wrong period.

[Minty]

What the hell? How do you know god doesn't exist? Any proof? If you believe in science, you should believe in impirical evidence. There is no impirical evidence that God does not exist so how are you a firm believer in science? Even though I'm muslim, the Qur'an is heavily based around science. I take both sides of the boat. If you think it isn't possible, then you know very little about Islam.

Do I read Kiplings books and believe that the elephant has a long nose because it was pulled by a crocodile??

Proof- the big bang pretty much disproves all of religions. If you want something to believe in, fine, believe in the goodness of mankind. If you need an imaginery friend to believe in, call him Jeremy, not God.

SHow me proof that God exists, in modern times. Im not the one clutching at straws here.

I have seen enough evil in this world to know that its not protected by some supreme being. Take a pick from AIDs, rape, murder, paedophiles etc etc. Those people chose to do those things. If there was a God tehre wouldnt even be a word for those in the dictionary.

The only believe that should be considered as a Religion is Buddhism IMO. They dont believe in some God, but believe that they will receive spiritual peace if they follow a way of life. Not sitting and looking at a cloud thinking that some old dude will save thme if they put their hands together.

[Flea]

I'm with Thrillkillbill and Rob on this one. The parents in the first video were idiots and IMO pretty horrible human beings if they think it's ok to treat either the snake or their child like that.
As for the gun video, I think it's bloody awful and it makes me kind of sad that we live in a world where people think it's ok to teach their kids how to handle guns at that age.
:goodpost

What happens if the kids outside playing and sees a cobra,
it may think its ok since the snake its had that experience with didnt hurt it,
then get bitten and end up dying.
:(
The gun thing i agree with what minty said.

Frigging idiots both sets of familys.


Minty is the Jeremy your on about the guy on itv in the mornings with the skanks of society on?

[L3giOn]

Do I read Kiplings books and believe that the elephant has a long nose because it was pulled by a crocodile??

Proof- the big bang pretty much disproves all of religions. If you want something to believe in, fine, believe in the goodness of mankind. If you need an imaginery friend to believe in, call him Jeremy, not God.

SHow me proof that God exists, in modern times. Im not the one clutching at straws here.

I have seen enough evil in this world to know that its not protected by some supreme being. Take a pick from AIDs, rape, murder, paedophiles etc etc. Those people chose to do those things. If there was a God tehre wouldnt even be a word for those in the dictionary.

The only believe that should be considered as a Religion is Buddhism IMO. They dont believe in some God, but believe that they will receive spiritual peace if they follow a way of life. Not sitting and looking at a cloud thinking that some old dude will save thme if they put their hands together.

Sorry Minty, but believeing in God isn't about proof, it's about faith. Now, I'm not a fan of organized religion, nor do I go to church on Sundays, but my faith is the only thing that keeps me going sometimes. Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean you should imply that people who do are crazy (the whole imaginary friend thing). ;)

[Minty]

Dont think I ever said crazy- gullable maybe, never crazy :p

I did say that it was about believing in something in my post- believeing in the good in mankind I can understand, and using your inner belief to get through things- I get that completly. But thinking that some old dude in the cloud will make everything alright is misguided. You make your own destiny in this world, if you believe you can change it then you will.

I get that people take comfort in believing that there is someone to help, but that doesnt make it a religion.

[Im a Manatee]

Minty, please stop bashing Christians. I'm not imposing my beliefs on you, nor am I ridiculing yours, so please, for the love of Jeremy, stop it. Your actions are just a little uncharacteristic of any site admin.

Septic? Excuse me? That is a very provocative comment, and it angers me so.

[Minty]

Well you're not an American, so have to call you something. Sure I can think of a few other choices.

And actually- my belief is that God doesnt exist. I am entitled to say that as much as you are entitled to say their is a God. You saying their is a God is offensive to my beliefs- it works both ways kid.

And I didnt bash Christians. You pointed out flaws in Hindu, how some of their followers do things that you dont agree with. Well, personally I dont agree with the Klu Klux Klan. If you do then thats your call.

[CovertDog]

If there is something I learned along time ago, it's, no one every wins an arguement about religion. The reason been, religion is about faith and faith is supose to be an yeilding. Personally I beleive in a higher being. Weather it's God or a little green man, all I know is if man is the highest being in this universe, the universe is f*cked.

[Fonkey Monkey]

if anyone else made this topic it would have been locked a long time ago.

[Minty]

if anyone else made this topic it would have been locked a long time ago.

Read the first post- it was a joke. Manatee blew up the religion.

And if I had shut it down then people would be moaning about that as well.

[WildManWiles01]

I actually have no problem with the parenting of this kid.

Its obvious that the cobra has been de-venomized (is that even a word?). Plus.... in my experience with training bird hunting dogs... you must get them around the animal that they are dealing with later on as to assure they will not be afraid of it.

So you take a bird hunting dog, and let him play will little ducklings as to assure he will want to hunt them later on. Just as these parents are doing with their child. The child is obviously a little badass.... Plus later on he will not be scared of cobras, and he will turn out to be a great snake charmer or whatever.

Now, take someone older (me for example, 23) and put me in front of the same cobra. Even tell me he was de-venomized, and I'd tell you to go screw yourself and run away like a little girl. I wouldn't be down there playing with the cobra.... because I am never around snakes to be comfortable...

[Blind Fool]

And if I had shut it down then people would be moaning about that as well. Then I'm shutting it down, we've had these religious debates before and they go nowhere but a flame war.

We all have our own beliefs, right or wrong, respect that whilst not everyone may agree with you, they respect your right to believe.