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Guitarr Steve
07-26-2009, 12:19 AM
As well as all other recent Guitar Heros. I hope I'm not the only one that thinks the GH3 and Aerosmith highway was extremely beast. For some reason, I have trouble with timing on this highway and I can get 5* on TTFAF on Expert GH3 guitar but on here I can only get 3 flipping stars. It makes me quite angry because I'd like to have 700+ gamerscore in all my games and this one just stops me...

Anyone else think that the highway in this game is odd?

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 12:33 AM
its because the game is run off the same engine as guitar hero metallica and as guitar hero world tour. you have to be alot more accurate now, as in GH3 you could hammer on notes a little earlier or a little later.

dakisbac
07-26-2009, 12:37 AM
So, this game sucks because it actually requires skill to play? GH3 is probably my favorite, but it takes the least skill.

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 12:41 AM
yeah nothing will ever beat gh3.. it was the most fun

Guitarr Steve
07-26-2009, 12:45 AM
So, this game sucks because it actually requires skill to play? GH3 is probably my favorite, but it takes the least skill.Sorry, but I just hate people like you. "Oh wow it's terrible because it takes the most skill? You complain because you suck!" Just don't post if you have to say stuff like that.

Oh and funkybass, I agree. Nothing will ever compare to GH3 gameplay-wise.

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 12:59 AM
Sorry, but I just hate people like you. "Oh wow it's terrible because it takes the most skill? You complain because you suck!" Just don't post if you have to say stuff like that.

Oh and funkybass, I agree. Nothing will ever compare to GH3 gameplay-wise.
Right so some guy says something very logical and we are supposed to listen to you a guy who no one has ever seen around here before. Xodakok posts here regularly but yet you are right?

You asked someones opinion and he gave it. He is right. All games past GH3 and GH:A require much tighter playing. GH 3 didn't require any tight playing at all. In fact you could play in a sloppy way, this requires you to be precise.

I call fanboy.

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 01:14 AM
well said Stufin... but i had no problem switching over from gh3 to smash hits.. and might i add you have sweet as hell guide

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 01:16 AM
well said Stufin... but i had no problem switching over from gh3 to smash hits.. and might i add you have sweet as hell guide
Thank you :). I just don't like the way people talk down to regular members and then expect everyone to love them, we don't ever see them again :p

Also that was my take on the games. GH3 is a lot of peoples favorite game, doesn't mean every game after is crap, it's just all about mechanics. I know I had problems switching from Gears 1 to 2, so why should all other games be different?

Also I am very drunk so I ain't 100% sure if this is making sense, or even if I read what you said was right :p

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 01:20 AM
Yeah i feel the same way, you think we wont see him again? lol =P

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 01:24 AM
Yeah i feel the same way, you think we wont see him again? lol =P
I am 100% he won't be back. If he does post in this thread again I will eat the next first born baby I see.

DISCLAIMER: Stufin will not actually eat the first born baby he see's... but he might have a beer.

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 01:26 AM
LOLOL that was great. im about to play some smash hits such a good game

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 01:29 AM
LOLOL that was great. im about to play some smash hits such a good game
I think it turned out really good as well. It is just since it has the GH name (and they bring out a new game every month) people dislike. You just have to give it patience and get into it. I liked GHWT at first for god sakes, then I went off it. But now I love it I feel it isn't as bad as people say.

God damn I hope that guy posts again, I want a beer :(. Wait why do I need the internets to get a beer? It doesn't control my life :)

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 01:37 AM
yeah i was the same way with GHWT but then some free dlc came out and i loved it again.

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 01:44 AM
yeah i was the same way with GHWT but then some free dlc came out and i loved it again.
lol yeah I really liked The Touch... Well actually all the Free DLC. The only problem I have with it is that the GH Modern Hits song turned my game FRENCH!!!!

Man did this get off topic fast... Wait now I think about it i get things off topic fast anyways. My guide is a good sign of that :p

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 01:56 AM
yeah sorry.. i happen to make things off topic =X

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 02:01 AM
yeah sorry.. i happen to make things off topic =X
I ain't bothered :p lol. I find it funny that between us we have about 80% of the posts, and about 7% of that 80% was on topic :p lol.

These figures are based on a drunk guys maths.

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 02:05 AM
its so off topic, it should be closed =D

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 02:09 AM
its so off topic, it should be closed =D
Probably will be, well now anyway :p but it might not because I don't think we are do any harm. Wait do even know the forum rules on this kind of shit :p. Actually do I know the rules at all? Bahhh who reads the fine print :p.

Also am I know actually having a conversation with myself :p

Lordvader178
07-26-2009, 03:48 AM
lol yeah I really liked The Touch... Well actually all the Free DLC. The only problem I have with it is that the GH Modern Hits song turned my game FRENCH!!!!


I can relate to that. Freakin the song list isn't in French but then like every menu after that is. Bah.

dakisbac
07-26-2009, 04:11 AM
Thanks for the backup Stufin :)

Sorry, but I just hate people like you. "Oh wow it's terrible because it takes the most skill? You complain because you suck!" Just don't post if you have to say stuff like that.

Oh and funkybass, I agree. Nothing will ever compare to GH3 gameplay-wise.

Show me where I said you suck. I didn't.

But honestly, you're complaining that the notes are too hard to hit. They're not- they're on time with the song. The problem with GH3 is that you could hold down a HOPO 10 seconds in advance and you'd get credit for hitting it on time when you clearly didn't, which has obviously spoiled you. And then when you play the game it was meant to be played (see: how it was originally, they messed it up in GH3 and have since fixed it) you complain that it's terrible.

And again, GH3 is my favorite game. Fun charts, good songs, and good online (the WT online and beyond is dreadful) but I still acknowledge that it takes the least skill to play. If that truth is too unpleasant for you, don't come back

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 04:37 AM
like stufin said... he said he would eat a baby if he cam back, so i dont think he will come back lolol

ShadowDante58
07-26-2009, 06:35 AM
i wouldnt call the game terrible
it has added bass, drums and mic for some of the earliest gh songs
im not really a big ghwt fan, think the setlist put me off it :p
but yeah, timing in ghsh and ghm is more in sync with the song requiring you hit the notes at pretty much the same time as done in song
gh3 is probs one of my top 3 gh games but the timing in it is much looser
:uzi::eek:

xXxDArKtOrNxXx
07-26-2009, 06:53 AM
IMO metallica is where guitar hero redemed them selves to me but seriously wtf is Dj jero?

Funkybass89
07-26-2009, 07:23 AM
idk theyre making dj hero just to get a new audience to the franchise i suppose.

Guitarr Steve
07-26-2009, 02:39 PM
Yeah so I asked if you guys thought that the GH3 highway was better and I get a bunch of people who take this forum too seriously in here.

I just wanted to know who like the GH3 highway better because the notes looked cooler and the highway was bigger, but you know.

Stufin135
07-26-2009, 08:41 PM
Yeah so I asked if you guys thought that the GH3 highway was better and I get a bunch of people who take this forum too seriously in here.

I just wanted to know who like the GH3 highway better because the notes looked cooler and the highway was bigger, but you know.
You didn't ask if the highway was better. You asked which is easier, so you asked a question on game mechanics, we all gave you our opinions on it. So you decided to flame a member, and then wonder why people hate you. Let's quote what he said and you said:

So, this game sucks because it actually requires skill to play? GH3 is probably my favorite, but it takes the least skill.

Sorry, but I just hate people like you. "Oh wow it's terrible because it takes the most skill? You complain because you suck!" Just don't post if you have to say stuff like that.

Right so he never said anything about you he said a point about the series. You changed it in your post that he actually said you suck.

TheBigBB
07-27-2009, 12:35 AM
The OP likes to have over 700 points in all his games, except for all those games he doesn't have over 700 in, INCLUDING GH3.

Guitarr Steve
07-28-2009, 06:37 PM
Wow. Yet another rant about this game.

I think drunk monkeys on crack made the achievements. Only 100G for completing all careers on Expert? Are you fucking kidding me? TTFAF Expert drums is the biggest pain in the ass ever.

Also, only 35G for doing all careers when it was 150G before, which would fit best for this game since it has so many songs. This just pisses me off..

stophj
07-28-2009, 06:50 PM
Yeah this game was a massive dissappointment. hopefully guitar hero 5 is a better all around game.

Guitarr Steve
07-28-2009, 07:12 PM
I'm not even going to buy GH5. The only modern day Guitar Hero I like (ones after GH3) is Metallica.

stophj
07-28-2009, 07:14 PM
I prefer rockband mostly for the fact all songs purchased work on the other games. unlike guitar hero. but I will still give 5 a chance. but it will likely be it's last chance.

Coadster1
07-28-2009, 07:20 PM
I actually like the new highways starting with Guitar Hero World Tour better than the old highways ending with Guitar Hero: Aerosmith.

PerpetualHeaven
07-28-2009, 08:58 PM
I don't feel like GH: M, GH: SH, and GH: WT require more "accuracy." Then again, I try and be as accurate as possible when I'm playing. I mainly attribute me getting much better because of WT. I prefer the style and gameplay of the WT engine. That's just my personal opinion.

Also, the reason TTFAF on SH is harder is because the lack of hammer-ons and increase of purple notes. I think it's a lot harder to keep a streak because of those two factors. I never really felt that I had to be more accurate while playing the game.

Tom115
07-28-2009, 10:01 PM
I really hate GHWT, GHM and GHGH. They're just horrible, horrible games in every way. They're not even fun to play, imo. Go back to Guitar only and the GH3 engine, highway and style and make GH4. Guitar Hero 5 can go fuck itself.

dakisbac
07-29-2009, 03:46 AM
I really hate GHWT, GHM and GHGH. They're just horrible, horrible games in every way. They're not even fun to play, imo. Go back to Guitar only and the GH3 engine, highway and style and make GH4. Guitar Hero 5 can go fuck itself.

While I too much prefer them being guitar/bass only games, just because the last few have not been so doesn't make them horrible.

I don't really know how anyone can complain about the highway, it's just cosmetic and reflects which character you're using. I haven't compared them, but either way it shouldn't matter. I'm not looking at the fretboard, I'm looking at the noes ON the fretboard.

As for tracklists since GH3, only WT's was shit. I don't even like Metallica but I've enjoyed playing the songs so far (just started today), and the G/SH tracklist is just a combination of the best songs from games up to GH3 except for RB and TTFAF (those were added for difficulty and for popularity, not for quality). In the end though it's all personal opinion and you can't blame the makers that more artists are wanting to be involved- thus they are branching out from tradition. That said though, the GH5 list looks fucking horrible so far.

As for new gameplay elements since GH3, I'll concede that most of them are crap.

For guitar we have the long notes that you have to continue to hold while hitting other notes, which is what I've wanted since GH2 (except when it's green and orange, that stretch hurts) and the slider notes. Like Rock Band's solos, I like that you can play those sections without strumming, but dislike both the slider bar and the solo buttons. Can't they keep those sections but get rid of these stupid extra features on the guitar?

For bass we just have open notes. I'm sort of mixed here, they add an extra challenge to what is otherwise the usual boring instrument but they just feel so awkward (to me anyway) especially the HOPO open notes (what are they even, HO or PO?) - which means not strumming and not holding a note- WTF is that? Get rid of those particular notes I say but keep em otherwise.

For drums we have the "held" notes that you have to hit repeatedly and the free sections. Get rid of both- they're terrible.

And for vocals we have freeform (like drums) and those sections where you make noise for starpower. Also both stupid- trash them both

GWagner250
07-29-2009, 04:00 AM
I like the way the notes look in GH3 and in all the newer ones pretty equally but if I had to choose it would probably be GH3 because it is by far the best guitar hero. But I hate some of the highways in that game that make it harder to see the notes, that really pisses me off.

All the games were awesome except for world tour, the songs in that game were terrible IMO.

InitiatedFan
07-29-2009, 05:30 AM
I have 1000 on every Guitar Hero game except GH3 becuase it was shit!!!!!!!!!!!SHIT.

InitiatedFan
07-29-2009, 05:33 AM
I really hate GHWT, GHM and GHGH. They're just horrible, horrible games in every way. They're not even fun to play, imo. Go back to Guitar only and the GH3 engine, highway and style and make GH4. Guitar Hero 5 can go fuck itself. i apolgise for the double post but everyone has a right to express there opinion but you my friend complete and total retard Guitar Hero Metallica is awsome and Guitar Hero 5 is gonna be fuckin awsome so shut your mouth HAHAHA

Cissnei
07-29-2009, 07:19 AM
i apolgise for the double post but everyone has a right to express there opinion but you my friend complete and total retard Guitar Hero Metallica is awsome and Guitar Hero 5 is gonna be fuckin awsome so shut your mouth HAHAHA

And you're a complete moron and douchebag. If he doesn't like the games he's free to say so and you have no right to flame him for that. I hate fanboys :mad:

Stufin135
07-29-2009, 08:36 AM
And you're a complete moron and douchebag. If he doesn't like the games he's free to say so and you have no right to flame him for that. I hate fanboys :mad:
You only hate fanboys because you get called one :p. We know deep down you just want to be called a fangirl :p

InitiatedFan
07-29-2009, 09:21 AM
And you're a complete moron and douchebag. If he doesn't like the games he's free to say so and you have no right to flame him for that. I hate fanboys :mad: i also mentioned that he was entitled to his opinion. I am also entitled to my opinion that i thought his opinion was shit. I also hate snotty nosed women who butt into other peoples business, but all women do that and then have a sook when they get yelled at.

Stufin135
07-29-2009, 09:41 AM
i also mentioned that he was entitled to his opinion. I am also entitled to my opinion that i thought his opinion was shit. I also hate snotty nosed women who butt into other peoples business, but all women do that and then have a sook when they get yelled at.
You live on twisted logic my friend.

You made a whole point about her being female. But you wouldn't have known if I didn't say anything. So what point would have you have made then?

Tom115
07-29-2009, 10:06 AM
i also mentioned that he was entitled to his opinion. I am also entitled to my opinion that i thought his opinion was shit. I also hate snotty nosed women who butt into other peoples business, but all women do that and then have a sook when they get yelled at. Ok, so if I think your opinion is shit, which I do, I have the right to flame you for it? No. Grow up you supid little cunt.

InitiatedFan
07-29-2009, 10:32 AM
You live on twisted logic my friend.

You made a whole point about her being female. But you wouldn't have known if I didn't say anything. So what point would have you have made then? the point i am making is all females are whingers who dont mind there own business. Also, Tom, you are entitled to think my opinion is shit which is soemthing i have already pointed out. So read what i write before making a comment!!!!! (learn to spell properly)

Stufin135
07-29-2009, 10:46 AM
the point i am making is all females are whingers who dont mind there own business. Also, Tom, you are entitled to think my opinion is shit which is soemthing i have already pointed out. So read what i write before making a comment!!!!! (learn to spell properly)
Wow you really know how to make friends don't you. Flame all the regular members.

Also I have bolded your spelling mistakes. Don't tell people to learn how to spell if you can't do so yourself.

Cissnei
07-29-2009, 11:18 AM
the point i am making is all females are whingers who dont mind there own business. Also, Tom, you are entitled to think my opinion is shit which is soemthing i have already pointed out. So read what i write before making a comment!!!!! (learn to spell properly)

Why don't you try to mind your own business for a change? If you say someone's opinion is bullshit you're a moron, simple as that. You have no right to flame anyone for simply stating his opinion. Stufin said it pretty much: twisted logic. You tell everyone how stupid they are and that they should keep their mouth shut, but you exclude yourself out of that. That's what a 5 year old would do (MY CAR IS SO MUCH MORE COOLER THAT YOURS!!!*whine, whine, whine*)

And you really seem to have some serious issues with females (we're scary aren't we?) :confused:


We know deep down you just want to be called a fangirl :p
Woooo! You could be right about that :p

xdishx
07-29-2009, 11:21 AM
the point i am making is all females are whingers who dont mind there own business

Wow...

you are entitled to think my opinion is shit

It certainly is...

Tom115
07-29-2009, 03:09 PM
the point i am making is all females are whingers who dont mind there own business. Also, Tom, you are entitled to think my opinion is shit which is soemthing i have already pointed out. So read what i write before making a comment!!!!! (learn to spell properly) Haha yeah I missed out one letter. I was going to comment about your spelling and grammar after you called me a retard before but I thought better of it. But since you did:
i apolgise for the double post but everyone has a right to express there opinion but you my friend complete and total retard Guitar Hero Metallica is awsome and Guitar Hero 5 is gonna be fuckin awsome so shut your mouth HAHAHA
Also, learn how to use punctuation and capital letters.

InitiatedFan
07-29-2009, 04:15 PM
And you really seem to have some serious issues with females (we're scary aren't we?) :confused:
I have don't issues with them its just that women should know there place in life.........in the kitchen and on there back HAHAHAHA

Stufin135
07-29-2009, 04:19 PM
I don't have issues with them, it's just that women should know their place in life......... In the kitchen and on their back HAHAHAHA.
Bolded mistakes.

For this English report I will give you an E.

Nice try but lots of mistakes and very short.

Cissnei
07-29-2009, 06:04 PM
I have don't issues with them its just that women should know there place in life.........in the kitchen and on there back HAHAHAHA

I'm seriously happy that I'm not living under the same rock as you ;).

xdishx
07-29-2009, 09:38 PM
I have don't issues with them its just that women should know there place in life.........in the kitchen and on there back HAHAHAHA

So what exactly is your place in life?

I'll give you 3 options because I'm nice:)

Option 1: To be bullied by women...

Option 2: To have no place...

Option 3: To fail...

InitiatedFan
07-30-2009, 07:03 AM
Ill give you three Answers

Answer 1: Your Gay
Answer 2: Your Gay
Answer 3: Your Gay

Stufin135
07-30-2009, 07:25 AM
Somebody is insecure.

Kuzan
07-30-2009, 07:52 AM
And a spelling problem. Cissnei being german spells way better than him.

Stufin135
07-30-2009, 08:18 AM
And a spelling problem. Cissnei being german spells way better than him.
That's a pretty good point :p. But then he is Australian :p lol (not dissing Australian but it is a different English to English English).

But looking at his profile back the comments left from other people show him to not be very smart :p.

P1TTMAN
07-31-2009, 01:00 PM
Ill give you three Answers

Answer 1: Your Gay
Answer 2: Your Gay
Answer 3: Your Gay Wait-- who owns three gays? :confused:

...Strangely on-topic-- or on the original topic, anyway-- maybe I'm the only one here who thinks the WT and Metallica highway is easier than GH3. The timing seems to me to be a bit looser, and more forgiving on the hammer-ons. After saying that, I'll admit that I'm not very good at these games: I play on Expert because the other levels are too boring, but I think GHII and Metallica are the only ones I've been able to beat the career on so far... GH3 - can't get Raining Blood (the mosh part-- has no tempo! :mad:) World Tour - can't manage to beat some of the boss battles or Hot for Teacher. :(

Guitarr Steve
07-31-2009, 07:38 PM
Guys, just ignore InitiateFan, he is a HUGE flamebaiter. ;)

Oh and I'm going to try to 4* TTFAF with my new Xplorer (:woop:). If I can't get it, I'll just give up for a while, because I don't seem to be improving on the newer GH games, but I'm always improving on GH3 and GH2 (yeah I know, it's weird).

Guitarr Steve
07-31-2009, 08:08 PM
Alright, I finally got 4* on this song because the Xplorer owns for fast strumming. I near FC'd the intro with strumming and came out with 67k, prior to getting around 45k every time before it. I still stick with my opinion on this game though - mostly because I will never get TTFAF on Expert drums again after doing it in quickplay. :(

dakisbac
07-31-2009, 08:51 PM
Two things:

1) Don't double post
2) Don't post the same thing in two threads

Guitarr Steve
08-01-2009, 12:53 AM
Thanks for congratulating me!

-.-

And yeah, on a serious note, thanks for telling me I suppose.

braddelo
08-01-2009, 04:48 AM
And the winner is.......

InitiatedFan!!!!!!!! for getting under the skin of losers who get offended by comments made on the internet!

It's so funny when people get so bitchy over someone who is blatantly fucking with them.

P.S. - Spelling Wars is more pathetic than licking a dirty asshole for coke. "He fucked up his spelling and grammar on the INTERNET! What an uneducated retard!"

(Spongebob is the best Guitarr Steve)

Guitarr Steve
08-01-2009, 06:12 PM
(Spongebob is the best Guitarr Steve)
Lol.

And yeah, I'm back to thinking this game sucks dick, hard. I just got to 83% on TTFAF on Expert drums and failed. Fuck the developers for making an achievement that's harder than my fucking dick only 100G. This game sucks balls and shouldn't be considered a Guitar Hero game, only a Dick Sucking Vagina Munching game.

Funkybass89
08-01-2009, 06:28 PM
this game doesnt suck..at all, it takes skill to play this because the engine is different. and i think the achievement is fine, cause i can do all instruments on expert. dont hate on the game cause you cant do good.

dakisbac
08-01-2009, 06:51 PM
Let's not get into this again

And congratulations I guess TC

Guitarr Steve
08-01-2009, 07:33 PM
If you can do all instrument careers on Expert, you better either play real drums or you're a super nerd. I mean seriously - normal players can't do this. Just like 575k Creeping Death and all that shit. Did the achievement team consist of drunk monkeys with no brains or something?

Tom115
08-01-2009, 07:40 PM
It's not that hard to be able to do all instruments on expert... it really isn't. Guitar/bass is piss if you started with the earlier Guitar Hero's, obviously. Singing is just... singing, easy as anything. Drums are fun so playing them occasionally inproves your skill no end. I'm no expert drummer but I can beat 50% of the songs on RB2 on expert so I'm getting there and I've barely played them tbh. It's not difficult.

Guitarr Steve
08-01-2009, 09:08 PM
Dude, if you can only play 50% of the Expert drum songs on RB2, you're not very good at them, and I doubt you could do TTFAF on Expert drums. Besides, you don't even have this game, how would you know? -.-

Tom115
08-01-2009, 09:15 PM
I never said I was good, I said I'm getting there. I'm getting better at drums by just playing them occasionally so, eventually, I WILL beat TTFAF on expert drums. And I do have the game thanks.

Funkybass89
08-01-2009, 11:34 PM
lol and btw im not a super nerd at all, i am an actual musician who can play alot instruments... bass being my expertise.. i can sing, play drums, and do guitar...and well said Tom i agree that guitar is piss easy

InitiatedFan
08-02-2009, 03:26 AM
Playing Guitar Hero doesnt make you a nerd. Its just practice and persistence.

Edit: Playing Halo makes you a nerd but thats another story.

A CATSHOVEL
08-04-2009, 10:15 AM
I just wanted to say that this thread gave me some really solid laughs.

Quack Afflack
08-04-2009, 07:49 PM
If you can do all instrument careers on Expert, you better either play real drums or you're a super nerd. I mean seriously - normal players can't do this. Just like 575k Creeping Death and all that shit. Did the achievement team consist of drunk monkeys with no brains or something?







no they wanted the achievements to be hard and i loved it
creeping death was easy as piss just get one riff and its done i can play all instruments on expert and well they are not that hard and im not some "super nerd" so if your just here to hate on other members gtfo.

Korean
08-05-2009, 11:36 AM
Wow Initiatedfan i think you are the first person i've seen FC all the games.

Madtown B
08-05-2009, 03:54 PM
I find it entertaining that everyone who can't get the difficult achievements says that they are stupid achs, but anyone who can get them thinks that they are great achs. Personally I think a few of them are good, but guitar hero achievements have been getting just as repetitive as the games. At least things are looking up for GH5.

Guitarr Steve
08-06-2009, 01:04 AM
Yeah, I can't wait for GH5 cheevos because they look like the majority of players can actually get them. :p

InitiatedFan
08-06-2009, 02:05 AM
Wow Initiatedfan i think you are the first person i've seen FC all the games. no there is a heap of people go to the 1000 club forum in this site and you will see!!!

kevinbeck12713
08-06-2009, 03:40 AM
Yeah, I can't wait for GH5 cheevos because they look like the majority of players can actually get them. :p

Then what the hell is the fun in that? Hard achievement are fun because they make you play the game and actually encourage you to get good at it... do you want a game full of 5 point achievements for creating a tatoo or playing your first song or some cutesy shit like that?

dakisbac
08-06-2009, 06:21 AM
I can't wait for Van Halen. The 5* everything on expert for drums and vocals will be quite the challenge for me, guitar/bass will of course still be piss easy.

All I need for this is Bloody Feet (which will take some practise) and all I need for WT is reach level 50. I still need to do Metallica as well but I know I can 1000 that. Then I can say the same as Initiated.