View Full Version : 06-07 NFL Rookie of the Year???
RadicalSniper99
12-11-2006, 03:07 PM
So who would you take right now as the NFL rookie of the year for this season?
As of right now, I would take Vince Young. 6-4 and a rejuvinated Titan is a quite a bit already in his first season.
messym
12-11-2006, 10:55 PM
I think that Marques Colston should be the ROY since he one of the top 5 WR's in the entire league until he got hurt. But, my guess is that the league gives it to Reggie Bush
Fonkey Monkey
12-11-2006, 11:26 PM
they do it for NFC and AFC, right? i would go with that one saints WR(sorry cant remember his name) for NFC
and for AFC id go with Maurice Jones-Drew. seriuosly that kid is amazing.
IMportdreams95
12-12-2006, 12:01 AM
my guess is that the league gives it to Reggie Bush
If the league does this i will be pissed. he has no way stepped up to the NFL and been the Reggie Bush we came to know and love in college. No one in the NFL has stepped up in my opinion to be called the rookie of the year. So Vince Young had a couple of good games, i still don't think hes all that great.
I'm biased so i say Joseph Addai
HIGHLANDER7
12-12-2006, 02:47 AM
I'd like to see Colston or Bush win it just because I'm a Saints fan but I also think Devin Hester should be considered for it. He just got his fifth return TD which is pretty amazing.
Krazie
12-12-2006, 03:22 AM
Jones-Drew is awesome, but its kind of hard to give a backup running back the ROY award, IMO, even if he is better than Taylor..
I'd say either Hester or Colston..
RadicalSniper99
12-12-2006, 01:06 PM
I don't have anything against Bush, but in no way is he performing as well as a lot of the other rookies out there.
I may be biased as a Titan fan, but Vince Young has brought the Titans wins over the Colts and Giants, while being an overall leader for the whole team. For a rookie to inspire confidence in the whole team is a big deal.
Bopher1
12-12-2006, 01:33 PM
It's going to be Bush, but if Devin Hester actually did something besides return kicks, he'd get some more consideration.
Krazie
12-12-2006, 05:57 PM
It's going to be Bush, but if Devin Hester actually did something besides return kicks, he'd get some more consideration.
Hester actually broke an NFL record for most Return TDs in a season, that's more than any other rookie has done..
Bopher1
12-12-2006, 06:13 PM
True, but Bush has done more for the Saints then Hester for the Bears. Plus, Bush acutally does more than field punts, He's actually a vital part in their offense. Just imagine, if he wasn't there, even more now with Colston out, the Saints would not be anywhere as good as they are. Hester, is like a 3rd sting DB, he only plays now because of injuries, and he got burned so bad last night by Holt. Returning kicks is the only reason he even got drafted.
RadicalSniper99
12-12-2006, 07:38 PM
True, but Bush has done more for the Saints then Hester for the Bears. Plus, Bush acutally does more than field punts, He's actually a vital part in their offense. Just imagine, if he wasn't there, even more now with Colston out, the Saints would not be anywhere as good as they are. Hester, is like a 3rd sting DB, he only plays now because of injuries, and he got burned so bad last night by Holt. Returning kicks is the only reason he even got drafted.
If that was true, what about Vince Young. Without him at quarterback, we could say that the Titans wouldn't have a win this whole season. Young is not only winning games with his legs, but also with his arms. This isn't a team effort always, he's the one making the big plays in these comebacks we've been seeing. Bush is good, but nowhere near the level that Young is playing at right now.
Buttcheeks
12-12-2006, 08:31 PM
I'd like to see Colston or Bush win it just because I'm a Saints fan but I also think Devin Hester should be considered for it. He just got his fifth return TD which is pretty amazing.
I agree with Colston the guys just flat out a playmaker and i would have to give some votes to hester who actually now has 6 Kick/Punt returns for touchdowns setting a new nfl single season record. I'm a big time Bears fan as you can see by my avatar so i'm kind of partial to Hester. :D
thepirate1214
12-12-2006, 11:44 PM
I think Reggie Bush and Matt Lienart have been amazing.
messym
12-13-2006, 03:19 AM
Here is my list of candidates the offensive all rookie team. If V. Young keeps up what he doing I don't know how he won't win.
M. Colston- NO
M. Jones-Drew- JAC
L. Maroney- NE
J. Addai- INDY
G. Jennings- GB
V. Young- TEN
D. Hester- CHI
R. Bush- NO
As far as defensive ROY my guess is that A.J. Hawk-GB wins it.
mike21878
12-13-2006, 05:29 AM
I agree .. if vince young wins out , he gets it. If not, i'd say bush gets it due to the exposure alone.
Krazie
12-13-2006, 05:56 AM
It's sad because Bush doesnt deserve it, he only had one ROY game.. And that was against my niners, lol
RadicalSniper99
12-13-2006, 01:00 PM
It's sad because Bush doesnt deserve it, he only had one ROY game.. And that was against my niners, lol
Exactly! I know Bush is going to be great, but he has only had a few isolated great games or moments. Young is winning games for a team that is in shambles, but is beginning to restore confidence to the team.
mike21878
12-13-2006, 11:40 PM
I dont know if it was just one game .. i'm so sick of seeing his punt return that sent my bucs into a downward spiral
Fonkey Monkey
12-14-2006, 12:15 AM
As if THAT was the one thing that did it....
Smokez
12-14-2006, 07:46 AM
Hester will win it by far
Wet Factory
12-14-2006, 04:37 PM
i know hester is only returning kicks but regardless, but that is a huge lift to the team when you dont even have to bring out your offense because this guy is putting you up ahead a TD. Let him get another returned touchdown and your just going to have to give it to him for exceptional performance. let him get two more and its a guaranteed!
Buttcheeks
12-14-2006, 06:15 PM
Hester has been especially huge lately with the offense struggling once again and grossman unable to find his touch. Without his 2 returns Monday night i think that Grossman would not have had such a good game. He took all of the pressure off of him and has been doing it all year by giving the Bears returns for touchdown's and by giving them excellent field position over and over again. I still think Colston should get it but the margin is getting slimmer with every return.
Lonsta DaMonsta
12-15-2006, 04:18 AM
I seriously don't think Vince Young is all that great. That was a good run he has last week, but that's about it. His stats aren't great, and not even "good". 10 tds, 11 ints, and 7 fumbles.... no.
I hope Reggie Bush doesn't get it either, just because of his name. His stats have sucked as well (except for that ONE game).
In all honesty and reality, Marques Colston deserves it. He's missed 3 games this season, and he still has over 900 yards. He's a vital part of the Saint's offense and their winning record this year.
And not to mention... he's been a key to success in fantasy football since he can be used in the TE slot ;)
Zidane2chest
12-16-2006, 09:58 PM
I believe that Marques Colston is going to win the ROY award. He was a seventh round pick out of Hofstra. The saints had a good draft picking up by far the best rookie receiver and a good running back. As for defense, im not sure of his name but a bears lineman has I believe 10.5 sacks so far this season.
Lykos
12-18-2006, 08:26 PM
The important ones are: Marques Colston: Who will not win it due to injury, but had done phenomenal up to that point. Devon Hester: Whose kick returns show a great player in the making, but whose average defensive play will prevent him from winning. Nick Mangold: The Jets always pick great centers. He's started every game, and has been a key part of the Jets offense because of his blocks. Vince Young (Winner): It's a good thing no one told him that he can't make those college plays in the pros.
LLCoolEric73
12-18-2006, 09:03 PM
DEF- DeMeco Ryans- LB Houston
OFF- Marcus McNeill RG San Diego
Shaaady Souljah
12-18-2006, 09:33 PM
It has to be Vince Young.
Look at the supporting casts of everyone else in the running...
The Saints have Drew Brees, the most underrated QB in the league, Bush, McCallister & Colston all working together.
The Bears D & Special Teams Corp. are amazing.
Leinart is throwing to the best young WR combo in the league.
Jones-Drew is extremely talented, but often comes in after the D is worn out and tired. But he is amazing as well.
Vince Young's best WR is probably Drew Bennet. And that isn't saying much. His RBs were a committee of Chris Brown and Travis Henry, and Henry has done alright lately, but he is no Bush/McCallister.
IMportdreams95
12-19-2006, 03:12 AM
IF the colts would let ADDAI be the starter and let him run., i believe he could have won it
PerpetualHeaven
12-25-2006, 12:33 AM
LT is going to win it..
haha i'm joking
It's either Colston or Young.. Bush doesn't deserve it and if he wins it.. It's another Lebron James issue all over again..
bunsoffun
01-03-2007, 04:57 AM
Vince Young should win it, just like he should have won the Hesiman last year. The Rose Bowl clearly showed that.
Gunstar Chaos
01-03-2007, 05:49 AM
I don't care what anyone says Hester should win it. No rookie has been able to jump in a season and complete a task like that.
TheMollywhopper
01-03-2007, 08:41 AM
If only Elvis Dumervil played all season... In 12 games:
7 sacks, 2 forced fumbles and 3 fumble recoveries. Three of those sacks were in his second game, which tied the 26-year-old record for most sacks by a rookie in a game. (Ok, maybe not rookie of the year material, but I gotta give my 'Ville boy some love here)
Rebel_INS
01-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Im a Titans fan, so definately Vince Young. Ive watched all 16 games this year, and I think he deserves it. He showed more potential every progessing game.
Bopher1
01-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Vince Young was named AP Rookie of the year today. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2718595
Offensive Rookie of Year voting
Vince Young Tennessee 23
Marques Colston New Orleans 9
Maurice Jones-Drew Jacksonville 9
Marcus McNeil San Diego 6
Reggie Bush New Orleans 3
Cyrex
01-04-2007, 12:16 AM
If the league does this i will be pissed. he has no way stepped up to the NFL and been the Reggie Bush we came to know and love in college. No one in the NFL has stepped up in my opinion to be called the rookie of the year. So Vince Young had a couple of good games, i still don't think hes all that great.
I'm biased so i say Joseph Addai
addai didn't play very much
its between these people
jones-drew
coloston
bush
young
hester --- can't forget him
Cyrex
01-04-2007, 12:16 AM
Vince Young was named AP Rookie of the year today. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2718595
Offensive Rookie of Year voting
Vince Young Tennessee 23
Marques Colston New Orleans 9
Maurice Jones-Drew Jacksonville 9
Marcus McNeil San Diego 6
Reggie Bush New Orleans 3
missed this one
Nodogg
01-04-2007, 12:37 AM
addai didn't play very much
All the more reason why his stats are so impressive. Bush was put up on name alone. Vince Young should have won hands down, Jones-Drew was great, but with split time Addai shouldn't have been snubbed, no votes. Seriously? That's crazy!
Here’s the stats:
Addai had 1081 yards rushing, 4.8ypc and 7 TD’s. He also had 40 yards receiving and 1 receiving TD.
Reggie Bush had 565 rushing yards, 3.6ypc, and 6 rushing TD’s. He also had 88 yards receiving and 2 more receiving td’s.
Jones-Drew had 941 rushing yards, 5.7ypc and 13 rushing TD’s. He also had 46 yards receiving and 2 more receiving td’s.
ArtificialDemon
01-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Exactly! That's what I've been trying to tell every one.
Gunstar Chaos
01-04-2007, 01:21 PM
Is Hester not considered to be an offensive player? He didn't even get a vote, this is so rigged.
IMportdreams95
01-04-2007, 05:59 PM
All the more reason why his stats are so impressive. Bush was put up on name alone. Vince Young should have won hands down, Jones-Drew was great, but with split time Addai shouldn't have been snubbed, no votes. Seriously? That's crazy!
Here’s the stats:
Addai had 1081 yards rushing, 4.8ypc and 7 TD’s. He also had 40 yards receiving and 1 receiving TD.
Reggie Bush had 565 rushing yards, 3.6ypc, and 6 rushing TD’s. He also had 88 yards receiving and 2 more receiving td’s.
Jones-Drew had 941 rushing yards, 5.7ypc and 13 rushing TD’s. He also had 46 yards receiving and 2 more receiving td’s.
couldn't of said it any better. If addai would of had the starting spot easily over 1,500 Yards. 10+ tds
Wreckon Dracgon
01-04-2007, 06:55 PM
Reggie was definitely put up on name alone I mean 3.6 yards is barely getting you a first down on three tries. Jones Drew and his 5.7ypr and 13 TD's for a rookie is damn impressive. Hester shouldn't have got a vote. I mean he's basically a return man and he plays in the NFC. The right person won the award. Not to echo what I'm sure many of you heard on Sunday NFL Countdown but when you are the QB and touch the ball on every single down, so much is riding on your shoulders and as a rookie it can be terrifying. The way Vince came in and settled down after his first couple games and almost lead his team into playoffs this was a no brainer. Let's not forget the Titans aren't that good of a team and most of the games they won simply because of his will to win. Then he has a game like they played against Jacksonville and you see that he is still learning and to think that someday this kid could be really great. My only question is the other 27 writers that didn't vote for him, and didn't cast their vote for Drew or Addai what the hell were they thinking.
Okay on a side note I just realized I'm starting to like football and I feel sick to my stomach... ohh 86 days until Opening Day hurry up damn it.
Nodogg
01-04-2007, 07:09 PM
couldn't of said it any better. If addai would of had the starting spot easily over 1,500 Yards. 10+ tds
Well if you look at the yards Addai had plus add Rhodes yards that combines to a 1721 yard season. Now IMO if Addai was used as the sole starter (barring injury) he could have easily out produced what Rhodes gave us. Now add in the addition 5 TD's Rhodes had then you have a really close ROY race between Addai and Vince Young.
All of that said Vince Young should still have won ROY. Along with all the stats that are reviewed, to me the award also looks at which rookie made the MOST impact to help his team. Tennessee would be a losing team with a probable record of 3-13 with out Young. Indy's record would most likely be comparable to the 12-4 recorded with Addai.
So while I think Addai was snubbed with 0 votes, the outcome would have probably remained the same even with the "coulda, woulda, shoulda's" I've provided :)
In closing,... GO COLTS!!!
Buttcheeks
01-04-2007, 08:01 PM
I still think Colston should have gotten it. The guy had a great year, he missed a few games and still had killer stats (70 Rec, 1,038 Rec Yds and 8 Td's) and he was a 7th round draft pick. There aren't too many 7th round draft picks that can do what he did for a team. He was a big reason why the Saints even made the playoffs.
Just to be clear i am not a Saints fan and anyone can see that from my avatar but i think he was definately the most impressive rookie this year. Vince Young had his moments and so did alot of the other players mentioned here but this kid brought it week in and week out.
PerpetualHeaven
01-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah but see how can you not vote Vince Young when he produce so much offense and started 13 games?
Personally, his season wasn't all that fabolous statistically. Guys who actually put up good statistic should be offensive rookie.
12/13, 2199 yards, and 66 passing rating isn't amazing offensively.
Addai's 1081 yards, 4.8ypc, and 7 touchdowns is real offense and he didn't evne get a vote. How does that even make sense? he didn't even start. He beat out Ahman Green, Deuce Mcallister, McGahee, Ronnie Brown, and more all of them who started.
Colston had 1038 yards receiving and 8 touch downs in only 12 starts is amazing ranking 19th in all WRs beating out guys like Burress, Ward, Fitzgerald, Muhammad and more.
Jones-Drew who barely got any carries and only started one game had better statistics then Addai. Imagine if he started? Shouldn't we take all of this into consideration?
Offensively the guys I listed were so much better then Vince Young. That's just how I feel. I don't think he should be offensive rookie of the year. But that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Hey Lebron was RoY in the NBA when Melo had a much better season. Maybe if the award was rookie of the year overall, then yes I could give it to Vince Young but not offensive.
babyfarmer
01-04-2007, 09:18 PM
I don't care what anyone says Hester should win it. No rookie has been able to jump in a season and complete a task like that.
Please. There is no Special Teams RotY, so which award should he get? Defensive RotY? For being the nickel back maybe 15% of the time this season and not doing anything exceptionally great? Hester has done well at what he does, but he is not deserving of any kind of RotY honors.
I have no qualms with Young being selected as Offensive RotY, but I think Maurice Jones-Drew should have made it a little closer, the guy had almost 1500 yards from scrimmage, 15 TDs, and averaged 5.7 ypc, all while being the primary backup/change of pace back much of the season. That guy has a bright future.
Buttcheeks
01-04-2007, 09:20 PM
Alot of it is a popularity contest too. I'm not saying Vince Young didn't put up good numbers because they were for a rookie, all i am saying is he is the most popular rookie out there and even if all of the guys we have mentioned outperformed him i still think he would have won it based on his popularity. The nfl is still all about making money and he is one of those money making type guys. Puts asses in the seats and jerseys on our backs.
Just my opinion anyways.
Lykos
01-04-2007, 10:07 PM
Yeah, clearly this is crap. Kerry Collins definitely would have led them into playoff contention, for sure.
PerpetualHeaven
01-05-2007, 02:07 AM
Yeah, clearly this is crap. Kerry Collins definitely would have led them into playoff contention, for sure.
What are you talking about?
I don't know what you're talking about but Kerry Collins sucks.
Lonsta DaMonsta
01-05-2007, 03:51 AM
I still think Colston should have gotten it. The guy had a great year, he missed a few games and still had killer stats (70 Rec, 1,038 Rec Yds and 8 Td's) and he was a 7th round draft pick. There aren't too many 7th round draft picks that can do what he did for a team. He was a big reason why the Saints even made the playoffs.
Just to be clear i am not a Saints fan and anyone can see that from my avatar but i think he was definately the most impressive rookie this year. Vince Young had his moments and so did alot of the other players mentioned here but this kid brought it week in and week out.
I agree. I seriously don't see why so many people are all over Vince Young. His stats were horrible. Colsten actually helped his team make it to the playoffs....
Enough said.
bdg7884
01-06-2007, 02:15 AM
I'm sayin' Co ROY Rookie Bush and Colston. < He seriously came out of no where!!
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