Game Ending.

[ThorAxe911]

Honestly, I think this was probably one of the WORST endings in any game i've ever beaten in my life.

Dont read ahead for spoilers for obvious reasons :P

like. by the time you reach the middle of the game, it starts getting extremely repetitive. its no lie. but the curiousity of wondering what was gonna happen kept me playing.

so i finally get to the last 2 memory blocks, yeah it was a nice surprise that they tricked you at the funeral, but EVERYTHING from then on was just fight fight fight fight fight. literally.

But then when you leave the animus, you see that lucy's finger is cut off, which that was neat, meaning she was (or is) an assasin as well. but that was the only "wow factor" for the ending for me.

Then, the game starts, bashing, the Christian faith, if you know what i mean, the dude starts naming all these miracles in the Bible and says how they all werent even miracles they were just illusions. And the professor in the real world even said something like "There is a book that claims the world was made in 7 days! Best seller too!"

Now. i did NOT make this thread to discuss religion, but simply...am I the only one who found this ending completely, and utterly, not satisfying? cuz i got the achievement for beating the game and i was like...seriously? and then, the satanic symbols on the ground? what happened? did they change script writers at the end of the game to some satanic man? who likes possesed people and satanic symbols and bashing the Bible?

man. great game gone bad in my opinion.

(sorry for teh wall of text)

[Spades68]

Well your post seems to center around your disapproval of the religious direction the game had taken. I also feel like you didn't bothering trying to figure out what the ending really meant "satanic symbols" (fucking rofl, no your dead wrong and on some ignorant shit).

There is a detailed explination on what the ending is and is actually very well thought out if you take the time to decipher it.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47327

This thread here, if you so choose to attain the knowledge of what happend and develop a more sound/constructed opinion about the *unsatisfying* ending. I realize you may not, in order to some how prove your *opinion*. Besides its quite a bit to read, which may be difficult since lots of people have the attention span of a goldfish (good friend gave me that quote :P).

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed doesn't *just* bash (if you can call it that) the Christain faith, it ends up putting an extremely creative spin on how all the religions are tied together in a sense.

Now for my personal opinion, the way your post is written it seems like you have a strong tie to the Christain faith, and thats great that you have something to believe in that makes you feel safe and secure, but what I can't figure out for the life of me is why you feel it nessicary to demean anyone elses beliefs. For doing that I feel sorry for you, putting your ideas (lol, someone else's ideas) above others with only your opinion on what you believe is "truth" is absolutely ludicrous.

Maybe I took your post too seriously but I think I was pretty damn close :)

[b3nnyth3gr33k]

i hated the ending on this game i didnt see the point in fighting all the people you already killed again

[ThorAxe911]

Well your post seems to center around your disapproval of the religious direction the game had taken. I also feel like you didn't bothering trying to figure out what the ending really meant "satanic symbols" (fucking rofl, no your dead wrong and on some ignorant shit).

There is a detailed explination on what the ending is and is actually very well thought out if you take the time to decipher it.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47327

This thread here, if you so choose to attain the knowledge of what happend and develop a more sound/constructed opinion about the *unsatisfying* ending. I realize you may not, in order to some how prove your *opinion*. Besides its quite a bit to read, which may be difficult since lots of people have the attention span of a goldfish (good friend gave me that quote :P).

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed doesn't *just* bash (if you can call it that) the Christain faith, it ends up putting an extremely creative spin on how all the religions are tied together in a sense.

Now for my personal opinion, the way your post is written it seems like you have a strong tie to the Christain faith, and thats great that you have something to believe in that makes you feel safe and secure, but what I can't figure out for the life of me is why you feel it nessicary to demean anyone elses beliefs. For doing that I feel sorry for you, putting your ideas (lol, someone else's ideas) above others with only your opinion on what you believe is "truth" is absolutely ludicrous.

Maybe I took your post too seriously but I think I was pretty damn close :)

wow your a douche bag dude. first off. there IS a satanic symbol you moron, its called the penatgram and its right beside the Animus.

secondly, im not "unsecure" or whatever the heck you called me, im simply saying that the game couldve been better of without bringing religion into it. its absolutely unnessary.

same thing goes for Family Guy or South Park. if the writers are such horrible comedians that they have to bring religion into it to get more ideas, thats flat out pathetic. needless to say, i watch those shows because everything else about them are funny. im just saying i didnt like the ending. and i wanted to hear other opinions buddy 'ol pal. so screw off.

[Phil the Bear]

Firstly, I thought the ending was really good - very thoughtful and far more in depth than most other video games.

Secondly, the Pentagram is not necessarily a "satanic" symbol - has had numerous meanings and usages - including Christian throughout history.

I kind of have to agree partially with Spades68 in that you seem to have drawn a conclusion heavily coloured on your own religious beliefs - although perhaps the venom he explained his opinion in was not warranted.

I think we should congratulate a flawed game (repetitive!) for trying to have a more in depth thoughtful storyline.

[TheDeadspace]

wow your a douche bag dude. first off. there IS a satanic symbol you moron, its called the penatgram and its right beside the Animus.

secondly, im not "unsecure" or whatever the heck you called me, im simply saying that the game couldve been better of without bringing religion into it. its absolutely unnessary.

same thing goes for Family Guy or South Park. if the writers are such horrible comedians that they have to bring religion into it to get more ideas, thats flat out pathetic. needless to say, i watch those shows because everything else about them are funny. im just saying i didnt like the ending. and i wanted to hear other opinions buddy 'ol pal. so screw off.

Way to do your research dude. The pentagram was used as long ago as Ancient Greece and Babylonia. It was also used (as mentioned above) by Christians, representing Christs' five wounds, among other things. It's only (relatively) recently that it has come to be associated with Satanism.

Secondly, the game is set during the Crusades. You know, gigantic religious war. Christians vs Muslims. The assassins in the game kill targets on both sides, it's not like there's any kind of religous bias. Bringing religon into the game is absolutely necessary for the games story to work. Otherwise, it's just a guy killing some other guys in dusty medieval cities.

Lastly, you didn't like the ending. That's fine. I was disappointed in it as well, but at least there were plenty of hints about the sequel (check out the linked thread above for more information). But as you said, you asked for opinions. Don't get offended, and tell someone to "screw off", just because their opinion is different to yours, buddy ol' pal.

[ThorAxe911]

Way to do your research dude. The pentagram was used as long ago as Ancient Greece and Babylonia. It was also used (as mentioned above) by Christians, representing Christs' five wounds, among other things. It's only (relatively) recently that it has come to be associated with Satanism.

Secondly, the game is set during the Crusades. You know, gigantic religious war. Christians vs Muslims. The assassins in the game kill targets on both sides, it's not like there's any kind of religous bias. Bringing religon into the game is absolutely necessary for the games story to work. Otherwise, it's just a guy killing some other guys in dusty medieval cities.

Lastly, you didn't like the ending. That's fine. I was disappointed in it as well, but at least there were plenty of hints about the sequel (check out the linked thread above for more information). But as you said, you asked for opinions. Don't get offended, and tell someone to "screw off", just because their opinion is different to yours, buddy ol' pal.

I didnt tell him to "screw off" because his opinons are different than mine, I told him to "screw off" cuz he's bein an ass hole. you can say stuff without bein a jerk about it. buddy 'ol pal. im all about hearing other peoples opinions and beliefs, but when you say it in such a cocky, arrogant, im better than you, im the shit, way. Then yeah that pisses me off.

[Spades68]

I feel the need to apologize for being rather harsh in my reply and if you decide to take the post for what it is *nerd rage* aside then you may of followed my advice on developing a more constructed opinion on the ending.

I realize you may not, in order to some how prove your *opinion*. Besides its quite a bit to read, which may be difficult since lots of people have the attention span of a goldfish (good friend gave me that quote :P).

This is the path you have taken for obvious reasons, which I can't say it makes you seems any smarter, if you would just take the time and read the explination of the ending and then reply with a more educated response, I'd respect it a tad more than being called a douche bag and wrong...

[phatstrat]

The game did an incredibly good job of being fair to all religious sects. There are many aspects to all religions which require a high level of interpretation. That is why there are so many different offshoots of the same ideals. For example, Catholics and Protestants are both "Christian" but believe in a radically different interpretation of the same concepts. This game just offered a different interpretation of such events. I don't think gamers are (at least I am not) seeking religious truths in their games so I am fine with whatever the designers wish to say. The ending was a little thin, but it was a great teaser for what is to come. I was ready for AC 2 as soon as I finished the first one!

[ThorAxe911]

Yah ya'll are right. sorry for bein rash, i guess i was just in a bad mood or something.

[McStabber]

And to make matters worse - AC 2 is in Production.

[InkedUp]

All though repetitive, the developers did a great job of creating a very complex story, even if you had to research a little bit to get the whole picture. Thanks for the provided link, it really gave a lot of insight into the game and made me even more excited for the sequels.

[ThorAxe911]

And to make matters worse - AC 2 is in Production.

hahaha i never said i didnt like AC. i just didnt enjoy the ending all that much. but yah AC2 will be worth a demo/rental at first atleast, if its too famililar of AC1 though i am not droppin 60 smackers for it.

[OverkillChaos]

If they do make a second one they need to elaborate more on the ending cause I watched it 4 times and still don't quite get it.

[ThorAxe911]

If they do make a second one they need to elaborate more on the ending cause I watched it 4 times and still don't quite get it.

and they need 2 make the game not so freakin repetitive

[afunk117]

the thing with AC2 is the first one is all in 1191 but now it will probably modern so what would you use as weapons

Also any idea of release date i just cant wait. i have to say with the first one the starting was shit and the moderny aspect of it was crap but it grew on me

[The DarkFox]

No realeased date confirmed yet. but biggest possibilities is for it too come out Dec 2009. or Jan 2010

[killerAlex01]

i am new but wow what a let down it was the second game i conpleated i 1 moth and well i almost weat out and sold my xbox but thank god i had pgr 3 and played that which is wow and the ending and well who game well lets say bad in other words and also if they make a second one then i will rent befor i buy am i right?

[KFZ Scrubs]

No realeased date confirmed yet. but biggest possibilities is for it too come out Dec 2009. or Jan 2010
I saw somewhere here on the forums that there was a confirmed release date at the end of 09....
hmmm, im gonna go and look for it now.

[jason86586]

it was a confusing ending but i thought it was good, it sounded like when altair killed al mualim that he said something in arab. anyone know what that was?

[MessiahSlayer]

Although the game was repetitive I think the story and ending were great. Probably the main reason I continued to play through and even go through a second time. I tried to explain this once that almost every game I have played has some sort of repetitiveness to it so either play it for what it is or don't but thats the only complaint I keep hearing. As for the ending I thought it was pretty cool and made me excited for the second one to come out. As far as religion goes I don't think they were bashing anyone and like someone already said its impossible to make a game in that time withoit having religion involved it wouldn't even be realistic.

[thebigm15]

im simply saying that the game couldve been better of without bringing religion into it. its absolutely unnessary.


lol that's what the crusades were all about!!!

[dakisbac]

This is why I don't like the majority of Christians I meet.

ITT: TC is fail

[Der Werwolf]

It's amazing how far we have travelled as a society. The same people that remark on certain religious aspects of the game seem to totally disregard the fact that we, as players, just committed countless acts of murder. Some will argue that war is not murder, and I'll agree, but for the sake of argument, how can one complain about religious bias and offensive symbols, but totally ignore the constant taking of human life? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy slipping a piece of metal between the third and fourth rib of an enemy just as much as the next guy. I'm just pointing out certain ethical conundrums that seem to be rising from certain players. Not to mention that according to history, that clan of assassins was a Muslim bunch.

Maybe if a person doesn't appreciate non-Christian religious symbols, perhaps buying a game where he/she plays an Islamic assassin was a poor choice.

[MessiahSlayer]

First off I would like to say the person above me has a great point. Secondly I just wanted to point out that I was watching a show today that happened to have that same symbol and they thought it was for devil worshippers. However they said that the star devil worshippers use has an extremely long point that is longer then the other 4 points. I don't remember what the symbol in the game looks like but maybe that can clear alittle up as well.

[1337Pwner]

As to the ending it left a clear mark that there would be a second part furthering the story, so we can't say the ending sucked, because there really is no ending, just a cliffhanger.

As to the religious aspects, I'm almost positive that there is a disclaimer in the beginning stating that the game shows no religious preference. That it was made by people of many different faiths. Religion was merely brought in for the story to make sense and work as TheDeadspace well put.

As for the repetitive thing. Almost any game can be considered repetitive if you think about it. You just have to not focus on it so much.

[Mongooli P5]

I can deal with the story, I can deal with the religeous views, I can deal with the repetitiveness, but please, oh god PLEASE don't make me collect 500 #*&@ing flags again in AC2!!! :mad::mad::mad: